Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

by **Grotewold** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 20:46:42

The tone deafness of this organization fascinates me, tbh

by **ReadingPhilly** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 20:50:32

Grotewold wrote:The tone deafness of this organization fascinates me, tbh

Mcare just had a great lol tweet playing on this.

eta:

Matt Carey@RealMattCarey29m
SILVER: who wants to start

JOSH HARRIS: I'll go, so we're looking at 50 acres of land, right on the river, at least 75-percent taxpayer funded...

Adrian Wojnarowski@wojespn
The NBA has scheduled a special Board of Governors meeting on Thursday morning, sources tell ESPN.

by **mcare89** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 21:18:11

Jokes aside, the story coming out just as the Bucks strike was happening was incredibly bad luck only befitting the Sixers. Obviously they would've preferred different timing, that's on the Inquirer.

But it is absolutely hilarious that after a comically hideous end to the season, and in the middle of a pandemic where so many people are out of work, that they thought "now's the time to start the lobbying push for a publicly financed basketball-only arena." I've always thought they were waiting for the peak moment of the Sixers being good to make the play, kinda like the Warriors did. This is...the opposite of that. Who the hell is supporting a taxpayer-funded *second* arena right now?

by **The Savior** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 21:26:47

And at a time when folks who are employed and generally are in the office laying wage tax are WFH and in no rush to come back.

by **azrider** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 21:59:05

“For benefits of communities of color.” Says the man who helped finance the closing of an inner city hospital that refused to reopen during a pandemic.

by **joe table** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 23:49:01

Help finance the buyout of a hospital by a scumbag sponsor who later closed it /lawyer hat

by **The B1G Piece** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:20:30

joe table wrote:Help finance the buyout of a hospital by a scumbag sponsor who later closed it /lawyer hat

by **joe table** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:21:50

Well said

by gr » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:38:09

No one's going to buy the move the team thing, right?

Silver would step in and stop that at some point

by **MoBettle** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:42:07

Sixers have led the NBA in attendance two years in a row and were 3rd the year before that (in part because WFC is huge but still). As certain franchise local ratings have plummeted the Sixers were up 20% this year last I saw. They're not moving and if they did we'd get another team soon enough.

by **The Savior** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:49:01

MoBettle wrote:Sixers have led the NBA in attendance two years in a row and were 3rd the year before that (in part because WFC is huge but still). As certain franchise local ratings have plummeted the Sixers were up 20% this year last I saw. They're not moving and if they did we'd get another team soon enough.

Much of the value is right there, building aside. They ain’t moving.

by **heyeaglefn** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:52:07

This is for after 2031, right?

by **azrider** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 13:04:50

heyeaglefn wrote:This is for after 2031, right?

if they're talking a specific site... they're looking to break that lease before then.

by **lethal** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:34:28

Grotewold wrote:Zach Lowe and Yaron Weitzman (author of "Tanking to the Top") chop up what happened to us around the 39-minute mark of today's Lowe Post pod

Good stuff

Fantastic interview. Might buy that book.

I don't know if I'd characterize the Fultz pick as a turning point for the organization. Sure, trading up cost Romeo Langford or someone picked right after him. Maybe they take Thybulle there instead, but they never intended to use all the 2nd rounders.

But it isn't as if the Sixers stayed at 3, they would've gotten Tatum. Boston was taking Tatum 1 if there was no trade. If the Lakers still took Ball, we'd still take Fultz. If the Lakers took Fultz, it isn't as if Ball, Fox, Issac or Markkanen have been world beaters. Jackson and Ntilikina have been disasters. Smith, Collins and Monk have been replacement level or so.

I can't imagine we would've taken Mitchell or Bam at 3 and I didn't see us trading down to get one of them.

So what was really the negative impact over the realistic alternatives?

by **Grotewold** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:37:33

And we ended up with the useful #21 pick this year as part of the Fultz saga. Yeah, I think you could argue the Tobias Harris deals were more significant.

by gr » Fri Aug 28, 2020 13:10:13

Def get the book, I read it in 3 days

by **MoBettle** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 16:13:23

lethal wrote:
Grotewold wrote:Zach Lowe and Yaron Weitzman (author of "Tanking to the Top") chop up what happened to us around the 39-minute mark of today's Lowe Post pod

Good stuff

Fantastic interview. Might buy that book.

I don't know if I'd characterize the Fultz pick as a turning point for the organization. Sure, trading up cost Romeo Langford or someone picked right after him. Maybe they take Thybulle there instead, but they never intended to use all the 2nd rounders.

But it isn't as if the Sixers stayed at 3, they would've gotten Tatum. Boston was taking Tatum 1 if there was no trade. If the Lakers still took Ball, we'd still take Fultz. If the Lakers took Fultz, it isn't as if Ball, Fox, Issac or Markkanen have been world beaters. Jackson and Ntilikina have been disasters. Smith, Collins and Monk have been replacement level or so.

I can't imagine we would've taken Mitchell or Bam at 3 and I didn't see us trading down to get one of them.

So what was really the negative impact over the realistic alternatives?

Fultz busting being the turning point is probably more accurate.

That said if they stayed at 3 and took Ball or whoever, the Lakers/Kings pick combo was a real asset at the time they could have used otherwise, maybe they take SGA the following year, bunch of different directions they could have gone. Also just because they're not all stars having a serviceable rotation player like Ball would have helped a fair amount over the years.

by **mcare89** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 16:17:14

I think the other thing that the Fultz thing did is that it kinda paralyzed them in terms of acquiring a point guard type ballhandler until it was too late and they knew Fultz wasn't going to be the guy. It took them out of putting any real resources into guard in the 2017 and 2018 offseasons, and for at least the first half of the 2018-19 season, with Butler really being the only ballhandler type they ever acquired.

by **Ace Rothstein** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 17:00:37

Pompey says J Kidd wants the head coaching spot in Philly

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Fri Aug 28, 2020 17:01:17

I’m only in if Kidd spills sodas for extra timeouts again

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