CFP wrote:Duke education about to be put to the test

gr wrote:Hinkie was the most eloquent person this FO has ever had.

gr wrote:Hinkie was the most eloquent person this FO has ever had.

gr wrote:Or 50% of media availability time is just rehashing the same things over and over, which he wasn't interested in doing.

How many times was he supposed to answer the same question about Embiid's leg with no new information?

The front office that followed Hinkie bungled all that was available to it, in a manic, panicked quest to acquire the best talent without attempting to field the best team. Embiid and Simmons made less sense together as their supporting cast failed to complement them. They went “star hunting” but were content with whatever they could bag.

Butler was never the best fit; he was the best available fit. Horford was neither. Harris cost too much to acquire and to retain. The gambles didn’t work, serving as nothing more than recognizable names and bloated contracts.

Napalm wrote:

gr wrote:Or 50% of media availability time is just rehashing the same things over and over, which he wasn't interested in doing.

How many times was he supposed to answer the same question about Embiid's leg with no new information?

It's corny I know, but it's part of the job. It's just part of the job.. It's not for me, but apparently people cared enough and I feel like I can recognize the value in that.

MoBettle wrote:

Napalm wrote:

gr wrote:Or 50% of media availability time is just rehashing the same things over and over, which he wasn't interested in doing.

How many times was he supposed to answer the same question about Embiid's leg with no new information?

It's corny I know, but it's part of the job. It's just part of the job.. It's not for me, but apparently people cared enough and I feel like I can recognize the value in that.

Colangelo didn’t do that either though. Like when the Fultz stuff was going on he didn’t do a media availability until the trade deadline. (“Doesn’t anyone want to talk about the trade deadline?”)

Difference was Colangelo was willing to feed some media people things off the record.

Fair to say part of the job is to play the media game and Hinkie didn’t do a good enough job at that. Still crazy he got effectively fired after less than 3 years on the job given the obvious progress he was making.

PSUsarge wrote:Another day, another typical "The Process failed" take here that inadvertantly points out the success The Process had in generating assets / foundational pieces - which was Hinkie's entire plan.

The front office that followed Hinkie bungled all that was available to it, in a manic, panicked quest to acquire the best talent without attempting to field the best team. Embiid and Simmons made less sense together as their supporting cast failed to complement them. They went “star hunting” but were content with whatever they could bag.

Butler was never the best fit; he was the best available fit. Horford was neither. Harris cost too much to acquire and to retain. The gambles didn’t work, serving as nothing more than recognizable names and bloated contracts.

https://theathletic.com/2020885/2020/08 ... potential/

MoBettle wrote:

Napalm wrote:

gr wrote:Or 50% of media availability time is just rehashing the same things over and over, which he wasn't interested in doing.

How many times was he supposed to answer the same question about Embiid's leg with no new information?

It's corny I know, but it's part of the job. It's just part of the job.. It's not for me, but apparently people cared enough and I feel like I can recognize the value in that.

Colangelo didn’t do that either though. Like when the Fultz stuff was going on he didn’t do a media availability until the trade deadline. (“Doesn’t anyone want to talk about the trade deadline?”)

Difference was Colangelo was willing to feed some media people things off the record.

Fair to say part of the job is to play the media game and Hinkie didn’t do a good enough job at that. Still crazy he got effectively fired after less than 3 years on the job given the obvious progress he was making.

MoBettle wrote:Fun, I almost did another rant about colangelo being opportunistic with media availability but you can just look at the first link for that!

Either way, both of them are gone, and I think we can all agree we are much more concerned about Brand making the right personnel moves than the right media moves.

Gimpy wrote:

MoBettle wrote:

Napalm wrote:

gr wrote:Or 50% of media availability time is just rehashing the same things over and over, which he wasn't interested in doing.

How many times was he supposed to answer the same question about Embiid's leg with no new information?

It's corny I know, but it's part of the job. It's just part of the job.. It's not for me, but apparently people cared enough and I feel like I can recognize the value in that.

Colangelo didn’t do that either though. Like when the Fultz stuff was going on he didn’t do a media availability until the trade deadline. (“Doesn’t anyone want to talk about the trade deadline?”)

Difference was Colangelo was willing to feed some media people things off the record.

Fair to say part of the job is to play the media game and Hinkie didn’t do a good enough job at that. Still crazy he got effectively fired after less than 3 years on the job given the obvious progress he was making.

It wasn’t really “obvious” to everyone. You could argue that we declined in wins in each of his seasons and of the five lottery picks he drafted, only two were playing for the team when he left and those two didn’t fit together and played the same position.

I would’ve much preferred Hinkie staying and continuing to build this team out though.

Napalm wrote:

MoBettle wrote:Fun, I almost did another rant about colangelo being opportunistic with media availability but you can just look at the first link for that!

Either way, both of them are gone, and I think we can all agree we are much more concerned about Brand making the right personnel moves than the right media moves.

It is fun to reflect, especially at introspective junctures such as these. Perspective you know. And I agree with you, we're moving on with Elton, and a little look at history gives clarification as to the signs of repeating our mistakes. Time being a flat circle and all

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I think the general interest in Lue is weird. my recollection is that after Lebron left, the Cavs next camp was an absolute mess, no one knew if they were going to prioritize young guys or vets, everyone hated each other, they went 0-6 and he was fired. even the LeBron years were filled with drama, backbiting, and bad defense. I'll have to check some old articles to see if I'm getting things wrong but odd to me he's being rumored so much to various teams, unless that's just good work by his agent

n the year I spent covering the Cavs, I always came away feeling like Lue was underrated from a tactical perspective. Yes, the entire offense revolved around LeBron, but Lue’s ability to make mid-game adjustments and design sets that maximized his best players was generally worthy of praise. Lue has also gotten a bad rap in terms of the jokes about ultimately being submissive to LeBron. In fact, Lue often stood up to James, and was not afraid to challenge him. That’s the type of leadership that Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid need -- someone who can level with them, but will challenge them when they need it. Because boy, do they need it.

Napalm wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:Another day, another typical "The Process failed" take here that inadvertantly points out the success The Process had in generating assets / foundational pieces - which was Hinkie's entire plan.

The front office that followed Hinkie bungled all that was available to it, in a manic, panicked quest to acquire the best talent without attempting to field the best team. Embiid and Simmons made less sense together as their supporting cast failed to complement them. They went “star hunting” but were content with whatever they could bag.

Butler was never the best fit; he was the best available fit. Horford was neither. Harris cost too much to acquire and to retain. The gambles didn’t work, serving as nothing more than recognizable names and bloated contracts.

https://theathletic.com/2020885/2020/08 ... potential/

I'm brought back to this about hitting on high-percentile elite players. Also relevant for Scott O'Neil and MCW timing.

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