60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby phillychuck » Tue Jul 28, 2020 16:14:17

SCPhillyPhan wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:statistically speaking does a person under the age of 50 in the US have a better chance of dying from Covid or being murdered?


What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?


I'm not sure what this post was about, but.....
COVID has already killed close to ten times as many Americans as your average year of murders. If the death rate of the last five months holds for the next five months, COVID will be the third leading cause of death to Americans this year.


I'll respond, knowing I'll get hammered...

First, if you are under 65 you have a way higher chance of dying from almost any other common cause of death (murder, car accident, alcoholic overdose, drug overdose, complications from the flu, etc.) than you do from COVID, especially now, since treatment protocols in hospitals are much better than they were. Over 40% of deaths in Italy and UK were from people that the governments of both countries said just this week were extremely likely to have died by the end of the year anyway, mostly institutionalized elderly. This people are not under 65. This comment is in no way intended to minimize the seriousness of the epidemic, especially for the elderly or those with co-morbidities, or those who were unfortunate enough to be infected in March or April, just responding to Big Piece. Look at the CDC data.

Second, the death rate is nowhere near what it was in March and April anymore. Young, healthy people are the ones getting infected now and almost all are asymptomatic or mildly sick at worst. And, as stated above, our hospitals are doing an awesome job with treatment improvements across the board, from reducing ventilator usage (which killed people in March by accelerating the immune response), proning people on ventilators, repurposing C-PAP machines, treating sick people with various off-label drugs that are reducing ICU admittance by almost 50% on comparable cases, using "emergency" drugs like Remdesivir and Favipiravir, and treating the very sick with convalescent plasma (BTW, get an antibody test and volunteer to donate if you have antibodies, especially if you had a symptomatic case. Those cases tend to produce a stronger immune response. Contact the Mayo Clinic.). It's extremely misleading to compare IFRs for the whole population to IFRs for those under 65, or to compare IFRs in March with those in late July.
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Wheels Tupay » Tue Jul 28, 2020 16:23:06

What if, and hang with me here, Price was the trojan horse sent into the marlins locker room?
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Napalm » Tue Jul 28, 2020 16:24:38

momadance wrote:Just cancel this shitshow.

is this real life?

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby The B1G Piece » Tue Jul 28, 2020 16:42:22

phillychuck wrote:
SCPhillyPhan wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:statistically speaking does a person under the age of 50 in the US have a better chance of dying from Covid or being murdered?


What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?


I'm not sure what this post was about, but.....
COVID has already killed close to ten times as many Americans as your average year of murders. If the death rate of the last five months holds for the next five months, COVID will be the third leading cause of death to Americans this year.


I'll respond, knowing I'll get hammered...

First, if you are under 65 you have a way higher chance of dying from almost any other common cause of death (murder, car accident, alcoholic overdose, drug overdose, complications from the flu, etc.) than you do from COVID, especially now, since treatment protocols in hospitals are much better than they were. Over 40% of deaths in Italy and UK were from people that the governments of both countries said just this week were extremely likely to have died by the end of the year anyway, mostly institutionalized elderly. This people are not under 65. This comment is in no way intended to minimize the seriousness of the epidemic, especially for the elderly or those with co-morbidities, or those who were unfortunate enough to be infected in March or April, just responding to Big Piece. Look at the CDC data.

Second, the death rate is nowhere near what it was in March and April anymore. Young, healthy people are the ones getting sick now and almost all are asymptomatic or mildly sick at worst. And, as stated above, our hospitals are doing an awesome job with treatment improvements across the board, from reducing ventilator usage (which killed people in March by accelerating the immune response), proning people on ventilators, repurposing C-PAP machines, treating sick people with various off-label drugs that are reducing ICU admittance by almost 50% on comparable cases, using "emergency" drugs like Remdesivir and Favipiravir, and treating the very sick with convalescent plasma (BTW, get an antibody test and volunteer to donate if you have antibodies, especially if you had a symptomatic case. Those cases tend to produce a stronger immune response. Contact the Mayo Clinic.). It's extremely misleading to compare IFRs for the whole population to IFRs for those under 65, or to compare IFRs in March with those in late July.

I should have prefaced that my post was complete satire of a long-gone poster and someone who constantly moves the goalposts because he wants to see the Nittany Lions on the field in September.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby philliesphhan » Tue Jul 28, 2020 17:12:02

Seems weird to only focus on deaths anyway. We still don't know what the long term effects will be for people who had it but didn't die.

Also all those "common causes of death" aren't contagious. This is.
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby WilliamC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 17:51:26

The new normal sucks.
Do it again!

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby MoBettle » Tue Jul 28, 2020 21:05:02

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/ ... mlb-report

Thinking is it may have started from at least one maybe more marlins went out in Atlanta according to nightengale
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Napalm » Tue Jul 28, 2020 21:06:33

WilliamC wrote:The new normal sucks.

Somehow the Marlins will evade cancel culture

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 21:58:18

Napalm wrote:
WilliamC wrote:The new normal sucks.

Somehow the Marlins will evade cancel culture


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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 23:20:01

Slowhand wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:I'm getting increasingly pissed at the Marlins. Nice job, dipshits.


If it wasn’t them, it would’ve been some other team. This was going to happen.



yeh, but it's combined with Jeter being there, that stupid stadium, and a host of other acts of depravity.
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:44:32

Stott, Medina and Listi were added to the player pool.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Wheels Tupay » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:49:00

So Listi was added to the list?
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby CFP » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:59:16

Passan says all Phillies players and staff tests came back negative again today.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Slowhand » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:03:53

Monkeyboy wrote:
Slowhand wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:I'm getting increasingly pissed at the Marlins. Nice job, dipshits.


If it wasn’t them, it would’ve been some other team. This was going to happen.



yeh, but it's combined with Jeter being there, that stupid stadium, and a host of other acts of depravity.


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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:52:40

No game Friday, DH Saturday

We better get to play the shorthanded Marlins that next week to make up for all this shit

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby ek20 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:58:59

major rust factor especially hitting
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Rockinghorse » Wed Jul 29, 2020 13:05:55

I applaud the nod to safety by going six days clear of Marlin interaction. But we can't deny this is a bit of cross your fingers and hope for the best. The Blue Jays have to be frustrated AF with how this whole deal is going

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed Jul 29, 2020 13:09:06

MoBettle wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/miami-marlins-players-went-out-atlanta-covid-19-outbreak-mlb-report

Thinking is it may have started from at least one maybe more marlins went out in Atlanta according to nightengale

Honestly all those players that went out should probably be dismissed from the team for the season.

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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Slowhand » Wed Jul 29, 2020 13:10:51

Dicks.
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Re: 60 Games To Leave Your Bubble: Phillies Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jul 29, 2020 13:13:13

Cutch is excited - players found out first this time.
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