'Cause the old one's overstuffed.

Coaching Changes
Manager = Joe Girardi (MLBN analyst), replacing Gabe Kapler
Hitting Coach = Joe Dillon (Nationals asst hitting coach), replacing John Mallee/Charlie Manuel
Pitching Coach = Bryan Price (Reds manager in 2018), replacing Chris Young
Infield Coach = Juan Castro (Phils minor league infield coordinator), replacing Bobby Dickerson
Bullpen Catcher / Receiving Coach = Greg Brodzinski (Williamsport coach), replacing Craig Driver

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Players Coming
2B Josh Harrison (last with DET)
SS Didi Gregorius (NYY)
IF Logan Forsythe (TEX)
IF Ronald Torreyes (MIN)
OF Matt Szczur (AZ)
OF Mikie Mahtook (DET)
C/OF Christian Bethancourt (Korea)
UT Nick Martini (CIN)
UT T.J. Rivera (WSH)
UT Neil Walker (MIA)
RHP Zack Wheeler (NYM)
RHP Deolis Guerra (MIL)
RHP Trevor Kelley (BOS)
RHP Reggie McClain (SEA)
RHP Robert Stock (SD)
RHP Anthony Swarzak (ATL)
RHP Bud Norris (last with TOR)
RHP Drew Storen (last with KC)
RHP Carlos Bustamante (Mexican League)
LHP Francisco Liriano (PIT)
LHP Cristopher Sanchez (TB)

Players Going
1B Logan Morrison (MIL)
2B Cesar Hernandez (CLE)
3B Maikel Franco (KC)
OF Corey Dickerson (MIA)
OF Shane Robinson (ATL)
UT Jose Pirela (Japan)
UT Sean Rodriguez (MIA)
UT Andrew Romine (CWS)
C Rob Brantly (SF)
SP Jerad Eickhoff (SD)
SP Drew Smyly (SF)
RP Mike Morin (MIL)
RP Juan Nicasio (TEX)
RP Edubray Ramos (LAD)
RP Dan Straily (Korea)
RP Nick Vincent (SF)

Free Agents
UT Brad Miller
SP Jason Vargas
RP Jared Hughes
RP Pat Neshek
RP Fernando Salas

Arbitration
Final Year = Realmuto ($5.9M in 2019), Alvarez ($1.925M)
2nd-to-Last Year = Velasquez ($2.249M), Neris ($1.8M), Morgan ($1.1M)
1st Year = Eflin

Pre-Arbitration
1 Year before Arb = Hoskins, Quinn, Williams, Pivetta, Arano
2 Years before Arb = Dominguez, Suarez, Garcia
3 Years before Arb = Haseley, Irvin, Grullon, Davis

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Under Contract
Harper ($27,538,462)
Wheeler ($21.5M)
Arrieta ($20M)
McCutchen ($17M)
Segura ($14.85M)
Gregorius ($14M)
Robertson ($11M, expected to miss all of 2020 after Tommy John surgery)
Nola ($8.5M)
Herrera ($7.35M)
Velasquez ($3.6M)
Alvarez ($2.95M)
Eflin ($2.625M)
Bruce ($1.75M, $14M overall)
Kingery ($1.75M)
Morgan ($1.575M)
Liriano ($1.5M if he makes the majors)
Swarzak ($1.5M if he makes the majors)
Storen ($750K if he makes the majors)
Knapp ($710K)

Projected Contract
Realmuto ($10.3M)
Neris ($4.7M)
Hoskins ($584K)
Haseley ($584K)
Quinn ($584K)
Irvin ($584K)
Suarez ($584K)
Dominguez ($584K)
Arano ($584K)
Pivetta ($584K)
Guerra ($584K)

Ooops, BigEd, I should have waited to have all your change info in the first post. If you want to create a new thread I'll be happy to delete this one.

Nah, all good!

2B Josh Harrison (DET)
RHP Trevor Kelley (BOS)
RHP Robert Stock (SD)
LHP Cristopher Sanchez (TB)

And somehow 51 pages in the last thread. Gonna be a long, long offseason.

Aside from JT and Bryce, there isn’t a position left on the field that is secure. Kingery will play somewhere but LF is open until Cutch shows that he’s healthy enough to play; CF is either Kingery’s or Hasely’s. Who knows where Segura plays if he is even here. Hoskins probably has 1B unless he gets moved in a deal for a SP and he gets his hitting stroke back. It’s been a while since the Phillies have had this many question marks.

Disagree about LF. They still have Bruce. If Cutch isn't ready opening day, then Bruce will be out there until he is

Stock is a good dumpster dive. Former 2d rounder who throws hard and got a decent GB rate. Has 2 options

That’s horrendous

joe table wrote:That’s horrendous

And yet my gaze is fixated

It's not the David. For what it is, it's a lot of fun.

Looks like he's yawning

So, a couple questions.

What's the most reliable source for what our 6 arb guys are gonna get?

Assuming we resign JT, what's the likely estimate on his AAV?

And Segura isn't worth nearly $15M, is he?

MattS projections:

JT = $10.3M
Neris = $4.7M
Vince = $3.9M
Eflin = $3M
Alvarez = $3M
Morgan = $1.6M

(He projected $800K for Knapp)

Segura 2019 it's iffy, probably yes, but Segura 2016-2019 overall is definitely worth $15M per.

Need him to bounce back a little, then decline slowly, and he'll be worth his deal.

Shore wrote:Segura 2019 it's iffy, probably yes, but Segura 2016-2019 overall is definitely worth $15M per.

Need him to bounce back a little, then decline slowly, and he'll be worth his deal.

100% agree. remember what we thought about santana's value relative to his salary after his bad year with the phils in 2018? for those watching the games: did anything about segura change from 2018 to 2019 that would be a particular reason to believe the drop in production isn't mostly randomness? weight gain? loss of foot speed? loss of strength (throwing/batting)? loss of bat speed? loss of strike zone judgement? (vision problems?)

BigEd76 wrote:MattS projections:

JT = $10.3M
Neris = $4.7M
Vince = $3.9M
Eflin = $3M
Alvarez = $3M
Morgan = $1.6M

(He projected $800K for Knapp)

JT is in his final arb year right? Why is he projected for less than Cesar was?

phorever wrote:

Shore wrote:Segura 2019 it's iffy, probably yes, but Segura 2016-2019 overall is definitely worth $15M per.

Need him to bounce back a little, then decline slowly, and he'll be worth his deal.

100% agree. remember what we thought about santana's value relative to his salary after his bad year with the phils in 2018? for those watching the games: did anything about segura change from 2018 to 2019 that would be a particular reason to believe the drop in production isn't mostly randomness? weight gain? loss of foot speed? loss of strength (throwing/batting)? loss of bat speed? loss of strike zone judgement? (vision problems?)

Looked heavy/thick to me, for a ss. Admittedly, I didn't see much of him before coming to Philly.

MoBettle wrote:JT is in his final arb year right? Why is he projected for less than Cesar was?

Because Cesar made $5.1M and $7.75M the past two seasons while JT made only $2.9M and $5.9M