Phillies 2019 Discussion III: The Dog Days of Bummer

by **Slowhand** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 20:07:13

MoBettle wrote:I’m not impressed.

McKayla Maroney over here.

by **joe table** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 20:08:28

MoBettle wrote:
Slowhand wrote:I’m pretty sure there’s gotta be something where Quinn is just too fast for his own good. That’s a thing, right? Kind of like steroid users whose muscles get too big for their ligaments and tendons to support naturally and they end up getting injured. Or maybe he just needs to do some yoga or something.

He's not even *that* fast. I bet every eagles cornerback could outsprint him. He's just injury prone. Maybe he has bad running mechanics IDK.

He’d smoke Mills (even if healthy) and Douglas. Would be interested to see him again Sidney Jones. Darby and Maddox both sub 4.4 combine guys so probably beat him

by **Stripes** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 20:13:10

pacino wrote:He is the fastest person I've ever seen with my own two eyes

Same here. Saw him at Williamsport. Absolutely jaw-dropping speed!

by **thephan** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 21:19:58

BigEd76 wrote:
Slowhand wrote:David Robertson has Tommy John surgery and is out all of next season. Shocked!

Assuming the Phils buy out his 2021 for $2M, he gets $23M for 7 appearances. Danny Tartabull is somewhere having a laugh

Robertson, 34, signed a two-year, $23 million deal with the Phillies in December. He ended up pitching just 6 2/3 innings over seven appearances before landing on the IL with a sore elbow in April.

by **CalvinBall** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 21:30:18

4 months ago. Surgery a few days ago. Cool.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 22:01:40

for whatever reason guys/teams think they can get back. same thing with tallion this week.

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 22:10:17

Arrieta has had a bone spur for over a year. Probably would have been a good idea to get surgery last off-season

by **heyeaglefn** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 23:34:25

Happens all the time, guys in their mid 30s probably aren't eager to have surgery right away if they can avoid it.

Snell just had spurs removed but he's 26.

by **bleh** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 23:47:32

I don't think Arrieta had the bone spur last year, just this year.

by **mcare89** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 00:29:49

ReadingPhilly wrote:for whatever reason guys/teams think they can get back. same thing with tallion this week.

I think it’s the general risk of the surgery. We’re all used to Tommy John, and I’m not sure what the recovery rate is in 2019, but there’s still at least 10% of guys who just never return to form. That’s not a huge chance, but it’s big enough that you’d probably try to avoid it if you could.

by **JFLNYC** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 06:06:40

Surgery is a last resort. Earlier treatments can last months, as in this case.

by **BigEd76** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 16:56:45

Rhys is hitting .105 with 1 HR in August. What the fuck.

by **BigEd76** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 17:09:19

Bryce was told 1990 was the last time the Phils franchise went a full season without a 5-game winning streak and he was like whaaaa

by **BatFlipsFTW** » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:43:17

phillychuck wrote:
MoBettle wrote:
Slowhand wrote:I’m pretty sure there’s gotta be something where Quinn is just too fast for his own good. That’s a thing, right? Kind of like steroid users whose muscles get too big for their ligaments and tendons to support naturally and they end up getting injured. Or maybe he just needs to do some yoga or something.

He's not even *that* fast. I bet every eagles cornerback could outsprint him. He's just injury prone. Maybe he has bad running mechanics IDK.

Quinn ran a 4.2 40-yard dash in high school. He's pretty freakin' fast. Every scouting service gave him an 80 speed grade (out of 80). Also ran a 6.35 60 which is tied for the best time in his graduating class and the year after.

Yeah. That's fast.

by **momadance** » Tue Aug 20, 2019 13:59:49

Eickhoff back and optioned to Lehigh. Jake to 60 Day IL.

by **BigEd76** » Tue Aug 20, 2019 16:55:18

Gabe says Nola will stay on the usual 5th day schedule, so he'll pitch Sunday in Miami and potentially game 162

by **Rockinghorse** » Tue Aug 20, 2019 17:08:47

So they could kick Eflin to the pen and give Straily a shot:

Tue - Nola / Wed - Smyly / Fri - VV / Sat - Vargas / Sun - Nola / Mon - Straily

by **BigEd76** » Tue Aug 20, 2019 17:24:28

Tentative schedule, with TBD for whatever they decide with the current junk or a callup. Nola gets the Sawx and Barves twice and the Mets and Nats once, but won't face the Indians

TUE 08/20 at BOS = Nola
WED 08/21 at BOS = Smyly
THU 08/22 = OFF
FRI 08/23 at MIA = Velasquez
SAT 08/24 at MIA = Eflin
SUN 08/25 at MIA = Nola

MON 08/26 vs PIT = Vargas
TUE 08/27 vs PIT = Smyly
WED 08/28 vs PIT = Velasquez
THU 08/29 = OFF
FRI 08/30 vs NYM = Nola
SAT 08/31 vs NYM = Eflin
SUN 09/01 vs NYM = Vargas

MON 09/02 at CIN = Smyly
TUE 09/03 at CIN = Velasquez
WED 09/04 at CIN = Nola
THU 09/05 at CIN = Eflin
FRI 09/06 at NYM = Vargas
SAT 09/07 at NYM = Smyly
SUN 09/08 at NYM = Velasquez

MON 09/09 vs ATL = Nola
TUE 09/10 vs ATL = Eflin
WED 09/11 vs ATL = Vargas
THU 09/12 vs ATL = Smyly
FRI 09/13 = OFF
SAT 09/14 vs BOS = Nola
SUN 09/15 vs BOS = TBD

MON 09/16 = OFF
TUE 09/17 at ATL = TBD
WED 09/18 at ATL = TBD
THU 09/19 at ATL = Nola
FRI 09/20 at CLE = TBD
SAT 09/21 at CLE = TBD
SUN 09/22 at CLE = TBD

MON 09/23 at WSH = TBD
TUE 09/24 at WSH DH1 = TBD
TUE 09/24 at WSH DH2 = Nola
WED 09/25 at WSH = TBD
THU 09/26 at WSH = TBD
FRI 09/27 vs MIA = TBD
SAT 09/28 vs MIA = TBD
SUN 09/29 vs MIA = Nola

by **thephan** » Tue Aug 20, 2019 21:25:14

In the Athletic comments under a story about pending FAs that might get traded, someone suggested Hoskins get moved for pitching, then the discussion turned to the idea that he would net, at best, a #4 pitcher. That was something.

by **mtcal** » Tue Aug 20, 2019 22:45:10

thephan wrote:In the Athletic comments under a story about pending FAs that might get traded, someone suggested Hoskins get moved for pitching, then the discussion turned to the idea that he would net, at best, a #4 pitcher. That was something.

wip guy was saying this too so i turned it off.

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