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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by slugsrbad » Fri Jun 14, 2019 09:27:27
Quick Google shows that GoGo is wrong with regards to the Kiwi and the Banana.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by ReadingPhilly » Fri Jun 14, 2019 09:48:26
slugsrbad wrote:Initial reaction is meh.. he'll probably be in our top 4, but I don't know if he solves our problems. Hopefully Ghost, Sanheim, and Provorov can step it up.
ghost is a goner.
seems like a solid vet who has won a cup and can play in the top four. needed some experience back there. still think trouba or subban will wind up here.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by CFP » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:01:18
slugsrbad wrote:Charlie O'Connor wrote:also I just woke up because I was awake until 2 AM writing 3000 words about Ivan Provorov's season so yeah
This is still so weird to me. Athletic is great but O Connor somehow seems to have no editor. Nobody wants to read that shit
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by slugsrbad » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:29:10
CFP wrote:slugsrbad wrote:Charlie O'Connor wrote:also I just woke up because I was awake until 2 AM writing 3000 words about Ivan Provorov's season so yeah
This is still so weird to me. Athletic is great but O Connor somehow seems to have no editor. Nobody wants to read that shit
I don’t pay for the Athletic and I like Charlie O’Connor on the BSG Radio podcast. The tweet just made me laugh since everyone here complains and makes fun of the word counts.
Quick Google shows that GoGo is wrong with regards to the Kiwi and the Banana.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by Bill McNeal » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:51:37
I mean he has good insight, the numbers/stars he sites and argument he had for keeping and playing MacDonald next year was good and interesting, but was rambling and long, I copy pasted it into word and it came out to like 2,961 words. That was probably about 2000 too many.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by gr » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:53:04
Are we sure CoC isnt David Murphy's alias?
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by PTOITWCFTPP » Fri Jun 14, 2019 14:39:09
Gudas is good to have if you’re deep in the playoffs on your third pair. Otherwise he stinks. Good trade.
With retaining salary, how does that work? Do we retain a partial cap hit?
With retaining salary, how does that work? Do we retain a partial cap hit?
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by Bill McNeal » Fri Jun 14, 2019 14:43:42
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gudas is good to have if you’re deep in the playoffs on your third pair. Otherwise he stinks. Good trade.
With retaining salary, how does that work? Do we retain a partial cap hit?
Yeah. Gudas has a $3.35m cap hit next year, we are retaining about $1M of that. Niskanen has a $5.75m cap hit the next two years, so effectively he has a $6.75m one next year I guess with the retained salary from Gudas.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by heyeaglefn » Fri Jun 14, 2019 14:56:04
Yeah Caps cleared a lot of salary overall to help sign their own guys.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by SixerLed3 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:05:01
Per GM Chuck Fletcher: The #Flyers have placed defenseman Andrew MacDonald on unconditional waivers for the purpose of terminating his contract.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by PTOITWCFTPP » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:27:05
Our long national nightmare is over
I’m so happy
I’m so happy
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by heyeaglefn » Sat Jun 15, 2019 13:02:08
Excited for him to win the cup next year.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by Stay_Disappointed » Sat Jun 15, 2019 15:03:14
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Gudas is good to have if you’re deep in the playoffs on your third pair. Otherwise he stinks. Good trade.
With retaining salary, how does that work? Do we retain a partial cap hit?
How would your rate Gudas on the Flyers last year?
So you gave up money and years and age- is niskanen that much better?
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by rolex » Sat Jun 15, 2019 15:37:31
Yes. The deal is worth it.
-Niskanen has a larger salary but is a fixed cost for two seasons. Gudas goes UFA after next season and will want more salary and term than he is worth to the Flyers.
-The biggest issue with Gudas is are you going to get the good or bad one on any given night. He was better last season with the penalties that he took but he could still flip at any moment and do a dumb thing.
-Niskanen has proven to be a leader on the back end and has worked well with young players. He did that with Orlov in Washington. The Flyers need someone like that with Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Morin, etc.
-Additionally there is a bit of a health problem with Radko. He had a serious knee injury when he was traded over to the Flyers from TB. Since then it hasn't been an issue but at any time an operated on knee could go into something troublesome. Especially with the type of game that RG plays. Niskanen isn't know to have any health issues.
-Niskanen has a larger salary but is a fixed cost for two seasons. Gudas goes UFA after next season and will want more salary and term than he is worth to the Flyers.
-The biggest issue with Gudas is are you going to get the good or bad one on any given night. He was better last season with the penalties that he took but he could still flip at any moment and do a dumb thing.
-Niskanen has proven to be a leader on the back end and has worked well with young players. He did that with Orlov in Washington. The Flyers need someone like that with Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Morin, etc.
-Additionally there is a bit of a health problem with Radko. He had a serious knee injury when he was traded over to the Flyers from TB. Since then it hasn't been an issue but at any time an operated on knee could go into something troublesome. Especially with the type of game that RG plays. Niskanen isn't know to have any health issues.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by Benny Lava » Sat Jun 15, 2019 16:16:08
reading the reactions to the gudas trade on twitter/blogs you'd think the flyers just traded a young chris pronger
gudas was average at best but he made teh big hitzzzzzz so he's the best
the team and the fans are both stuck in the past
gudas was average at best but he made teh big hitzzzzzz so he's the best
the team and the fans are both stuck in the past
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by momadance » Sat Jun 15, 2019 16:22:59
Benny Lava wrote:reading the reactions to the gudas trade on twitter/blogs you'd think the flyers just traded a young chris pronger
gudas was average at best but he made teh big hitzzzzzz so he's the best
the team and the fans are both stuck in the past
Need moar muckers, grinders, dumb penalty takers, and Kate Smith's.
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by PTOITWCFTPP » Sat Jun 15, 2019 20:35:48
Full disclosure: I never minded the AMac trade and signing him I thought was fine (at the time). That was a bad take!
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Re: 2019 Flyers Offseason
by ReadingPhilly » Sun Jun 16, 2019 14:55:03
rolex wrote:Yes. The deal is worth it.
-Niskanen has a larger salary but is a fixed cost for two seasons. Gudas goes UFA after next season and will want more salary and term than he is worth to the Flyers.
-The biggest issue with Gudas is are you going to get the good or bad one on any given night. He was better last season with the penalties that he took but he could still flip at any moment and do a dumb thing.
-Niskanen has proven to be a leader on the back end and has worked well with young players. He did that with Orlov in Washington. The Flyers need someone like that with Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Morin, etc.
-Additionally there is a bit of a health problem with Radko. He had a serious knee injury when he was traded over to the Flyers from TB. Since then it hasn't been an issue but at any time an operated on knee could go into something troublesome. Especially with the type of game that RG plays. Niskanen isn't know to have any health issues.
good synopsis. plus niskanen might be a better fit in the new system. definitely don't think they're done and we'll see another first pairing guy in here, maybe at the draft.
trade/prov
niskanen/sanheim
myers/hagg or morin.
seems like they are intent on trading for backup goalie too instead of bringing back talbot.
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