were they joking or was that a real sentiment?

Bucky wrote:i'm of that old axiom that whoever gets the best player in a trade wins

so almost guaranteed we lose

football is a lot different than the other teams sports in this regard. Dallas being a good example of this with the Walker trade

He has an all time great game (7 TDs), an all time great season (27-2), and a SB win would probably mean he’s had an all time great postseason. Can’t imagine he parlays that into HOF, but I’d be down to see his number get retired.

Bucky wrote:i'm of that old axiom that whoever gets the best player in a trade wins

so almost guaranteed we lose

I wouldn't do it but there are a lot of Penn State Fans licking their chops for Barkley I guess.

CalvinBall wrote:were they joking or was that a real sentiment?

ESP admitted it was a longshot and Matt Whateverhisnameis was like "no" but they did think he could get a statue and were 100% on his number being retired, which I think I'd agree with as well. Which is pretty fucking crazy.

I really don't think Foles will be as treasured around the league as he's being made out to be. Mediocre backup, a spot starter, and he's had a starting tour outside of Philly already. Y'know, major props to him for filling in as valiantly as he has, but I don't think anyone would expect him to replicate this over the course of a reg. season. Had Wentz got hurt earlier in the year, they're likely rotating Sudfeld in at some point. The formula is there as it was in 2013, and if he can be backed by a strong run game, good special teams, a strong defense which nets turnovers to cut offensive starting field position in half, AND plays mistake free football, then he can sling confidently. He's just as likely to take a shit as he is to turn it into gold. But I guess ultimately there's some asshole team with an uninspired front office who will inquire, so if you can snag at least a 3rd, do it. This has been a magical run but i think Sunday was his shining moment, peak career moment, multiple stars aligning. Still playing with house money, but expectations will be heavily felt regardless

heyeaglefn wrote:

Bucky wrote:i'm of that old axiom that whoever gets the best player in a trade wins

so almost guaranteed we lose

I wouldn't do it but there are a lot of Penn State Fans licking their chops for Barkley I guess.

I don't follow college football all that closely, but trading wentz for a RB would be so franchise alteringly stupid, I don't have any words for it.

Bill McNeal wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:

Bucky wrote:i'm of that old axiom that whoever gets the best player in a trade wins

so almost guaranteed we lose

I wouldn't do it but there are a lot of Penn State Fans licking their chops for Barkley I guess.

I don't follow college football all that closely, but trading wentz for a RB would be so franchise alteringly stupid, I don't have any words for it.

It wouldn't be for a running back for what people are throwing around. Someone started the Myles Garrett, CLE 2 top 5 picks this year, and possible a future 1st. So you are looking at RB and probably another rookie QB, then BPA with the other 1st. Like I said I wouldn't do it but you at least think about it for a split second, especially if they were to like the QB class this year.

Say you love Josh Allen, and you get Allen, Barkley, Garrett and then a top 10 1st rounder next year.

Napalm wrote:I really don't think Foles will be as treasured around the league as he's being made out to be. Mediocre backup, a spot starter, and he's had a starting tour outside of Philly already. Y'know, major props to him for filling in as valiantly as he has, but I don't think anyone would expect him to replicate this over the course of a reg. season. Had Wentz got hurt earlier in the year, they're likely rotating Sudfeld in at some point. The formula is there as it was in 2013, and if he can be backed by a strong run game, good special teams, a strong defense which nets turnovers to cut offensive starting field position in half, AND plays mistake free football, then he can sling confidently. He's just as likely to take a #$!&@ as he is to turn it into gold. But I guess ultimately there's some asshat team with an uninspired front office who will inquire, so if you can snag at least a 3rd, do it. This has been a magical run but i think Sunday was his shining moment, peak career moment, multiple stars aligning. Still playing with house money, but expectations will be heavily felt regardless

MEDIOCRE backup? He's very easily the best backup QB in the NFL. Happened to just lead a team to the Super Bowl, pretty good for a backup.

heyeaglefn wrote:Someone started the Myles Garrett, CLE 2 top 5 picks this year, and possible a future 1st.

No way in hell we do that, and I doubt they would either

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:

Napalm wrote:I really don't think Foles will be as treasured around the league as he's being made out to be. Mediocre backup, a spot starter, and he's had a starting tour outside of Philly already. Y'know, major props to him for filling in as valiantly as he has, but I don't think anyone would expect him to replicate this over the course of a reg. season. Had Wentz got hurt earlier in the year, they're likely rotating Sudfeld in at some point. The formula is there as it was in 2013, and if he can be backed by a strong run game, good special teams, a strong defense which nets turnovers to cut offensive starting field position in half, AND plays mistake free football, then he can sling confidently. He's just as likely to take a #$!&@ as he is to turn it into gold. But I guess ultimately there's some asshat team with an uninspired front office who will inquire, so if you can snag at least a 3rd, do it. This has been a magical run but i think Sunday was his shining moment, peak career moment, multiple stars aligning. Still playing with house money, but expectations will be heavily felt regardless

MEDIOCRE backup? He's very easily the best backup QB in the NFL. Happened to just lead a team to the Super Bowl, pretty good for a backup.

maybe i should rephrase myself but i don't care much if that's the only thing you picked out. He's a GREAT backup, but a mediocre long term solution. Nice in a spot start, in a familiar place, which is why he could be worth more here than there

There aren't 32 long term solutions at the QB position right now.

lol at trading wentz.

Grotewold wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:Someone started the Myles Garrett, CLE 2 top 5 picks this year, and possible a future 1st.

No way in hell we do that, and I doubt they would either

They aren't trading Wentz but someone mentioned what kind of value would you have to get to trade him and I think something like that is close to it.

ReadingPhilly wrote:lol at trading wentz.

already running the poor fucker out of town.

I'd only entertaining trading Wentz in Ricky Williams style fashion, and only if Kevin Costner was the GM

This is pretty much exactly the turn I'd expect this thread to take when you have nothing to do for about 11 more days

I am completely on board retiring Nate Sudfeld number.

Now if Nick wins it all for Dogtown, number 9 might be worth a trip to the rafters. HoF, oh please. The only HoF for Nick right now is enshrining his individual accomplishment.

ReadingPhilly wrote:lol at trading wentz.

yeah this is such a bad conversation

Napalm wrote:I'd only entertaining trading Wentz in Ricky Williams style fashion, and only if Kevin Costner was the GM

It would be fun to trade him for an entire team, all their draft picks and a truck load of cash leaving Carson standing in Cleveland all alone. Why Cleveland? Well, first that is who would be so dumb, and second Costner as GM could be made real at that point.