Super Bowl MVP QB Nick Foles

Re: Nick Foles

Postby Phred » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:59:35

CalvinBall wrote:it took us basically ten years of shitty qbs to land on carson. please stop.


To be fair, we had Nick Foles during that time and got rid of him. Should have kept.
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby gr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 15:26:38

Maybe Minnesota will trade us a first for him.
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby mtcal » Thu Jan 25, 2018 16:39:49

Uncle Milty wrote:
thephan wrote:When the line was really big against the Vikings I almost placed my first professional bet, but then I remembered that I do not like gambling on principle.

Only gamble with the interest.


i was told when i was 8 'never bet with or against the eagles'
Not everything I think is something I should say.

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Bill McNeal » Fri Jan 26, 2018 17:22:02

from the Banner q&a on the athletic:
Kapadia: We like to get ahead of ourselves, and I realize this is a silly hypothetical, given that they're about to play in the Super Bowl, but readers have asked about it so I wanted to get your take. Assuming Foles plays reasonably well, what do the Eagles do with him? Will there be a trade market? If you were running the team, what kind of offer would it take for you to consider dealing him?

Banner: I think it is an unlikely hypothetical. Partially, just his overall career path. And partially, the fact that for the first time in years, we actually have three or four veteran quarterbacks that are gonna be available that have a chance to be quality starters on teams that are probably more easily evaluated and more easily available. And you also have at least what appears to be, although we're far from knowing, a reasonably deep draft for quarterbacks. So the market for somebody that's had an up and down NFL career and a short stint of success here surrounded by very good players, I think it's really unlikely there'd be interest even if he plays well in the Super Bowl.

It would take a lot for me. You see the value of a number two quarterback. So probably anything that wasn't at least a two, I wouldn't even listen to. And even then, I'd be nervous about making a move. I mean, [Carson] Wentz is now developing a little bit of a history of getting hurt, not enough that you're overly worried. You're at least conscious of it. And you go from probably with virtually any other backup in the league, they were dead in the water six weeks ago to now having actually a real shot of winning a Super Bowl because they had a good backup ready to go that could thrive in this system and that Doug could figure out how to use effectively. I mean, what's that worth?

As good as the team is, and as likely with Wentz going forward as they are to continue doing well, you never know what the future's gonna be so you want to take advantage of every opportunity. I'd be shocked if there were serious interest, and if I were running the team, I'd be really reluctant to move him even if there was.

Kapadia: That's a great point about the quarterbacks that will be available this offseason.


Oh and also this

Banner: I'm hopeful for the same reason that we just discussed. The Eagles should win both lines of scrimmage. Now, making up for that is that you have probably the greatest quarterback in the history of the game on the other side. So as I say, no absolute rules, but frequently, the team that wins both lines of scrimmage wins. The exception is when you're playing against as great a quarterback and as smart a coach as they will be. But I think the notion that the spread is the biggest in years, I understand that's really for betting purposes, but it really doesn't make any sense.

The Eagles should win this game or it should be really close. Just barring a really bad day from [Nick] Foles or a bunch of turnovers, I see them right in this game, and I actually think slightly more likely to win than not.
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 01, 2018 16:59:15

Bill McNeal wrote:from the Banner q&a on the athletic:

I mean, [Carson] Wentz is now developing a little bit of a history of getting hurt, not enough that you're overly worried.


That's some bunk. Get hurt and you have a history of getting hurt?
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Feb 01, 2018 17:00:39

Missed a year in college too.

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby heyeaglefn » Thu Feb 01, 2018 17:03:33

He had arm issues in High School too. Some of them have been fluke injuries but hopefully they don't continue.

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby phillychuck » Thu Feb 01, 2018 21:31:50

Wolfgang622 wrote:Hmmm.

What this boils down to is the nature of that Wentz injury. If he had broken his ankle like McNabb or his collar bone like Rodgers - freak things from contact - me, that's football, and this conversation is a non-starter. But the knee just going on a non-contact injury - probably it's just a freak thing, but it is ever so slightly more troubling, at least to me. "Is this just a freak thing or a sign of things to come?" That more than anything else was my immediate bad reaction to it, once I knew it didn't come on the hit, much more so than "Oh noez! Foles!" I had some faith in Foles.


Wentz said in a recent PC that he wasn't sure whether or not it occurred prior to contact. Said he just got up after the play and knew something wasn't right. I've watched the play a lot of times and he gets hit pretty good in the legs, and I don't see the usual "pushing against nothing" motion where his leg slips that is usually the sign of a non-contact ACL. I really am uncertain whether or not it was "non-contact."
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Bucky » Thu Feb 01, 2018 21:37:11

but you see his leg buckle in a way a leg shouldn't be able to

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby phillychuck » Thu Feb 01, 2018 21:43:11

Bucky wrote:but you see his leg buckle in a way a leg shouldn't be able to


On the hit, not before. The guy coming in from in front spears him in both legs, and 97 (a 300-lb DE) drives through the back of his legs from his left. He could have torn the ACL when the defensive end hit him full speed in the lower leg.
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Feb 01, 2018 21:53:01

Image

It’s the left knee. You can kinda see a “pop” when he drives right before contact
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 21:55:27

I choose to believe phillychuck’s analysis.

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby phillychuck » Thu Feb 01, 2018 21:56:28

I don't know. You might be right, but couldn't it have popped when 97 sort of bent his leg in half against 28 (who hit him low)? I'm not sure... I don't think they are either.
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Bucky » Thu Feb 01, 2018 22:02:09

i can't find it, but they were showing the replay on tv where he was scrambling in the backfield and his leg went wacky crooked. I can't find that video anywhere.

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby joe table » Sun Feb 04, 2018 23:45:51

Underreported story, Nick foles wandered around the frozen tundra all week with only a bible and six large peyote cacti. Came back from his vision quest to absolutely carve the pats and their rocket scientist coach. Triumph of faith over science rly

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Gimpy » Sun Feb 04, 2018 23:46:30

joe table wrote:Underreported story, Nick foles wandered around the frozen tundra all week with only a bible and six large peyote cacti. Came back from his vision quest to absolutely carve the pats and their rocket scientist coach. Triumph of faith over science rly


I don’t even know if this is a joke, but I believe it and I believe in Foles

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Werthless » Sun Feb 04, 2018 23:53:07

He's worth 2 firsts. :) Lol

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Re: Nick Foles

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 04, 2018 23:59:37

Trade Wentz? Lol
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Feb 05, 2018 00:01:11

Was Wentz really that good or are both QBs the result of great coaching
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Re: Nick Foles

Postby WheelsFellOff » Mon Feb 05, 2018 00:06:37

Warszawa wrote:Was Wentz really that good or are both QBs the result of great coaching

Go back and look at the tape. Wentz is really that good.
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