World Series 2008 Game 4 Thread

by **The Red Tornado** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:43:43

forgot the clip!!

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/me ... 0273647799

by **The Red Tornado** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:45:46

also

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW3_5WqMACg[/youtube]

by **Bakestar** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:47:55

The Red Tornado wrote:forgot the clip!!

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/me ... 0273647799

Hmm... technically, yes, when they took the shot of him rounding third base (we were in 329). But otherwise, no.

by **seke2** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:49:17

i was part of the blurry background of fans in RF

howard's homer was about 2 sections straight over from me, we were close to the rf corner

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 13:37:32

Just for the record since I haven't been around for 24 hours:

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yesterday was the best day of my life before today!!

We lost game two on purpose so Cole could get a no-hitter tonight!!

I'm so happy I could die!!

GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **FTN** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 13:53:55

Im two paragraphs into Sheehan's rant today

The series shifted when that strategy did. Saturday, Maddon let Howard see Matt Garza in the sixth inning of a 3-1 game, and Howard made it 4-1, a key run in a game in which the Rays later rallied to tie it at four. Last night, it was Andy Sonnanstine's turn, protecting a 2-1 lead in the fourth inning of what may well have been an elimination game. Sonnanstine was not pitching well, struggling with his command, which is his entire game. Sonnanstine without his command is like me without the "e" key—you can understand what's happening, and you get the sense that there's skill present, but the results are pretty hard to watch.

At what point did the Rays have a 2-1 lead?

by **FTN** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 13:55:26

He should have. He had a right-handed command pitcher without his best command, pitching from the stretch in a bandbox, against a guy who had been neutralized all month by southpaws. Howard's October "slump" was entirely a function of being force-fed good left-handed pitching in key spots. When he came to the plate against Sonnanstine in the fourth, Howard was at .357/.454/.571 against right-handers in the postseason, and .125/.300/.125 against left-handers, or basically the same player he's been all season long. It wasn't a slump: it was exploitation of his weakness.

by **Bucky** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 13:56:37

he doesn't, you know, WATCH the games, he just looks at the stat sheets

by **jamiethekiller** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 14:57:30

what about the bomb against miller then?

by **seke2** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 15:00:58

it didn't count

you'd think that BP guys would be intelligent enough to realize it's OK to admit you are wrong when enough contrary evidence is presented

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 15:44:27

seke2 wrote:it didn't count

you'd think that BP guys would be intelligent enough to realize it's OK to admit you are wrong when enough contrary evidence is presented

Exactly! Just like all of us!

by **seke2** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 15:45:08

most of us aren't paid to write for sites that supposedly offer intelligent baseball analysis

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 15:46:53

I didn't realize the standard was payment. You only said "intelligent enough."

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:02:11

seke2 wrote:most of us aren't paid to write for sites that supposedly offer intelligent baseball analysis

We do it for free! How smart does that make us?

by **philliesphhan** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:56:43

FTN wrote:Im two paragraphs into Sheehan's rant today

The series shifted when that strategy did. Saturday, Maddon let Howard see Matt Garza in the sixth inning of a 3-1 game, and Howard made it 4-1, a key run in a game in which the Rays later rallied to tie it at four. Last night, it was Andy Sonnanstine's turn, protecting a 2-1 lead in the fourth inning of what may well have been an elimination game. Sonnanstine was not pitching well, struggling with his command, which is his entire game. Sonnanstine without his command is like me without the "e" key—you can understand what's happening, and you get the sense that there's skill present, but the results are pretty hard to watch.

At what point did the Rays have a 2-1 lead?

Howard's HR was so majestic that it took one of the Rays runs away

Sheenan is really becoming one of the biggest jokes around. Howard has his worst statistical season ever (despite still being really good) and he decides he's a bad player now despite a career line of .279 .380 .590. Can we find a platoon partner for this guy already? I can't take all these home runs and stuff

by **karn** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:58:44

Yeah, e's or no e's, I'm not getting a sense that there's any skill present

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