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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby mtcal » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:51:03

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
NickSixers wrote:On the latest Vertical podcast (WITH WOJ) featuring the Draft Express guy as the guest, Woj (seemingly re-connected with Jerry's Boy) says that talks continue with the Hawks about Teague. Also seems to suggest Jerry's Boy is open to trading the Lakers pick and that team's value that highly because of the strength of next year's draft.

Terrified of what BC is going to do on Thursday. I really fear he'll squander the assets we endured the past few seasons to earn.

Boston gets: Jah
Lakers get: their pick back, 3, Saric
Sixers get Ingram

CMON COLLAR MAN


im in the small percentage that is greedy and wants ingram and simmons both, but have no idea how much it takes and if they'd play together.

what about taking on russell who the lakers lockeroom probably hates and if needed throw something else in?
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby SixerLed3 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:58:19

Barring a last-minute blockbuster trade offer, the Los Angeles Lakers intend to select Duke freshman Brandon Ingram with the second pick in the 2016 NBA draft on Thursday night, league sources told ESPN.

The Lakers spent three hours huddled with new head coach Luke Walton on Tuesday night before signaling to multiple league sources that Ingram would be their choice if the Sixers select Ben Simmons with the No. 1 pick.

The Lakers believe that Ingram is a great fit for the organization and a potential All-Star player down the road. His shooting and ability to defend multiple positions on the floor fit a huge need for them. Ingram has been ranked No. 2 on ESPN's Big Board since December and is widely considered the consensus No. 2 pick in the draft by rival general managers.


http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2016/story/ ... ngram-no-2

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:01:31

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby gr » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:04:17

if we're still making new ones, we need a BLOCKBUSTER graem.
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Werthless » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:04:37

jamiethekiller wrote:big board time?

http://www.deepishthoughts.com/kaisers- ... big-board/

simmons, ingram, baldwin, dunn, payton, deyonta davis, brice johnson, bembry, mccaw, derrick jones jr, denzel valentine, onuaku, ellenson, felder, jaylen brown to finish the top 15.

mostly just been seeing/reading how 8-40 are basically interchangeable at this point. lotta players in this draft can do multiple things. rather keep our two picks and get someone quality.

Would be nice to get one of Dunn or Baldwin, but it's looking like Baldwin will go higher than people thought a few months ago.

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Napalm » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:05:43

JFLNYC wrote:In other news, the sun rose in the east today.

it just took so long to get over the horizon that is BC's collar

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Youseff » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:13:36

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jamiethekiller wrote:big board time?

http://www.deepishthoughts.com/kaisers- ... big-board/

simmons, ingram, baldwin, dunn, payton, deyonta davis, brice johnson, bembry, mccaw, derrick jones jr, denzel valentine, onuaku, ellenson, felder, jaylen brown to finish the top 15.

mostly just been seeing/reading how 8-40 are basically interchangeable at this point. lotta players in this draft can do multiple things. rather keep our two picks and get someone quality.

i can't remember how well we mapped it out in the past, but there seems to be indication that we can't accommodate all of these new roster spots and development. Something has gotta give once the board breaks a certain way in the teens. Would be surprised if they used both picks


I used to think that but there's no reason to be attached to much in our backcourt. Maybe Nik, that's it.
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:24:11

Another Fake ESPN Insider Trade.

1. Celtics trade: No. 3 pick, guard R.J. Hunter
Philadelphia 76ers trade: center Jahlil Okafor, forward Robert Covington

Why Boston does it: The Celtics make the most sense of any realistic destination for Okafor. Boston could use Okafor's ability to efficiently create his own shot, and in the short term Amir Johnson is a good frontcourt partner because Johnson can defend power forwards while playing on the perimeter.

That said, I wouldn't do this deal as the Celtics without getting Covington. The combo forward has one of the league's better contracts (he'll make the veteran's minimum each of the next two years, and even that amount is non-guaranteed) and would allow Boston to play small on a more regular basis.

In fact, Covington cracked the top 50 of our trade value rankings -- just ahead of Okafor.

Why Philadelphia does it: This isn't great value, that's for sure. However, the Sixers are probably going to have to accept less than 100 cents on the dollar because other teams know they want to move either Okafor or Nerlens Noel, and the No. 3 pick is the best they're going to get in this year's draft.

Philadelphia also gets a useful prospect in Hunter, a favorite of my projection system before last year's draft who played well in the preseason before struggling in his limited regular-season action.

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby MoBettle » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:27:01

Everyone knows Boston doesn't want to draft a big man that's two years away or a guard that won't play for them.

Why is it that whenever there are rumors with Boston the narrative always becomes that the team trading with the Celtics is in a hostage situation.
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby SixerLed3 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:33:57

MoBettle wrote:Everyone knows Boston doesn't want to draft a big man that's two years away or a guard that won't play for them.

Why is it that whenever there are rumors with Boston the narrative always becomes that the team trading with the Celtics is in a hostage situation.


Their GM is better at using the media to his advantage than nearly any other GM in the sport.

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Squire » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:38:10

MoBettle wrote:Everyone knows Boston doesn't want to draft a big man that's two years away or a guard that won't play for them.

Why is it that whenever there are rumors with Boston the narrative always becomes that the team trading with the Celtics is in a hostage situation.


This is my question exactly. But it certainly is consistent in that regard.

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Youseff » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:42:20

kid's charming

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby MoBettle » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:43:18

It's across sports really. We dealt with this crap when Cole was being traded.
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:47:42

Ben just said wearing the Sixers practice uniform felt great and Philly feels like home :h:

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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Eem » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:50:01

At this point I've managed to really talk myself into a Simmons/Murray pairing
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Youseff » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:51:11

Eem wrote:At this point I've managed to really talk myself into a Simmons/Murray pairing


interesting - Murray has gone in and out of favor on the ol' internet - what's your thinking there?
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Eem » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:53:07

Youseff wrote:
Eem wrote:At this point I've managed to really talk myself into a Simmons/Murray pairing


interesting - Murray has gone in and out of favor on the ol' internet - what's your thinking there?


I like that he can shoot and score. With Simmons on board, concerns about Murray's PG ability are lessened IMO. Frees him up to do what he does best, and he can fill in as a point a few minutes a game if need be, but it won't be the most of his responsibilities
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby PhillyPhan » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:53:28

Youseff wrote:
Eem wrote:At this point I've managed to really talk myself into a Simmons/Murray pairing


interesting - Murray has gone in and out of favor on the ol' internet - what's your thinking there?



Been in favor of Simmons / Murray the whole time. Murray is a potentially elite shooter who will help Simmons and Embiid. We need those types. We can get by with a solid PG, but need true shooters to spread the floor.
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby MoBettle » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:54:25

I like Murray. This thing about his release point being too low is classic over scouting.
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Re: draft chaff and Simmons laughs, a summer Sizzlers thred

Postby Youseff » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:55:30

what about the being a bit of a slug on defense? when people say that about Buddy I don't really see it, but with Murray even my untrained eyes see a slow bro.
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