Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GDT

Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby mtcal » Sun Sep 10, 2017 22:30:56

The B1G Piece wrote:Don't know how anyone can stand local Eagles coverage


speaking of which --

i've said this before --was in the car for some of the game and his voice is iconic and all but as a radio play-by-play guy you have no clue what's going on. 'short gain' on a run can be anywhere between 1 and 4 yards. 'caught for the first down' might be 1 yard past the sticks, or 10'. he can give the time of the game and what quarter and what the score is every 3 mins, but can't be bothered to say where the ball is on the field very often.

quick isn't much better.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby jamiethekiller » Sun Sep 10, 2017 22:35:39

i hate him..so much.

that went scramble and bomb for 58 yards. no clue how far he through it, what he did to get out of trouble or even that agholor broke a tackle.

that behind the back pass/fumble. no excitement or sadness. just that oculd be a fumble and then they went to commercial.

he's terrible and only has a voice

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby thephan » Sun Sep 10, 2017 22:36:10

Nice to see Alshon & Smith drawing attention freeing up Agholor. It was also nice that Agholor caught a few.

The D dominated. The Skins QB is still a minivan driving Cousins, so take that FWIW.

It was a good win for week 1, now let them knock off the rest of that rust and click. When the team is full speed it should be fun.
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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby phillies » Mon Sep 11, 2017 00:39:32

jamiethekiller wrote:i hate him..so much.

that went scramble and bomb for 58 yards. no clue how far he through it, what he did to get out of trouble or even that agholor broke a tackle.

that behind the back pass/fumble. no excitement or sadness. just that oculd be a fumble and then they went to commercial.

he's terrible and only has a voice


100% this. i had to listen to the first 20 minutes of the game and was dying to see a replay of the agholor catch because i had no earthly idea how the play went down. i'm not looking for kevin harlan levels of description (who is over the top on the radio), but something...i couldn't even gather if it was a deep pass by wentz.

now perhaps in merrill's defense - i know this is well documented - but the subsequent sack/FF by cox must have only elapsed by 3 seconds and he had to mention the who the sack was sponsored by, who the forced fumble was sponsored by, AND WHO THE TURNOVER was sponsored by. any pbp guy would have trouble getting into a flow having to do all of those reads. it was like a parody of a game broadcast.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby Titlehungry » Mon Sep 11, 2017 00:42:23

The fact that Nelson Agholor may be a legit weapon now is shocking... you might as well tell me that Marcus Smith will morph into Ray Lewis wherever he is
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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby BigEd76 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 02:21:49

ha.....not quite. Smith was credited with 1 tackle vs Green Bay

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 11, 2017 07:57:49

Wentz is pretty comfortable on the run. athletic dude that has great touch throwing into the garbage cans. it's like he overthinks throws when he's in the pocket
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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby Grotewold » Mon Sep 11, 2017 08:55:02

jamiethekiller wrote:i hate him..so much.

that went scramble and bomb for 58 yards. no clue how far he through it, what he did to get out of trouble or even that agholor broke a tackle.

that behind the back pass/fumble. no excitement or sadness. just that oculd be a fumble and then they went to commercial.

he's terrible and only has a voice


Yeah I haven't really listened to games on the radio in the last 20 years or so, and was surprised at how awful he was. The 'no excitement' thing especially -- I should be able to tell by the tone of your voice (if not your words) if something really good or bad is happening to the Eagles

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 09:01:21

Titlehungry wrote:The fact that Nelson Agholor may be a legit weapon now is shocking... you might as well tell me that Marcus Smith will morph into Ray Lewis wherever he is


Well, we have absolutely no reason to put any faith in Agholor based on past performance, and the preseason hype makes it harder to trust, but if he gets to play an easy game of catch because other teams are pasted to legitimate threats, I will take it.
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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby Squire » Mon Sep 11, 2017 09:08:33

More I see the video, the more I think that fumble might have been the correct call. It does look like the ball is coming out of Cousins hand even before Graham makes contact with him.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby CFP » Mon Sep 11, 2017 09:11:42

Squire wrote:More I see the video, the more I think that fumble might have been the correct call. It does look like the ball is coming out of Cousins hand even before Graham makes contact with him.


Yeah, there was one angle to me that made it look like this was clear-cut what happened, and then another angle where it wasn't so clear cut. It was almost optical illusionish.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Sep 11, 2017 09:58:34

CFP wrote:
Squire wrote:More I see the video, the more I think that fumble might have been the correct call. It does look like the ball is coming out of Cousins hand even before Graham makes contact with him.


Yeah, there was one angle to me that made it look like this was clear-cut what happened, and then another angle where it wasn't so clear cut. It was almost optical illusionish.

Exactly the same here. The reason I think it was a pass was how the ball came forward so hard when BG was pushing his arm the other way, wouldn't make sense to be a fumble.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby stevemc » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:13:42

The closer I looked at it, doesn't it seem as though Graham's left hand hits Cousins' throwing motion at the moment of change from backward to forward and then his right hand blocks the fumble/pass?

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:17:06

that's what i thought happened originally, but it didn't look like his left hand ever got him from the back angle.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:18:23

looks like he lost grip of it before he was even hit
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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby heyeaglefn » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:28:37

pacino wrote:looks like he lost grip of it before he was even hit

From that angle yes, not from the other angle.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby stevemc » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:32:41

heyeaglefn wrote:
pacino wrote:looks like he lost grip of it before he was even hit

From that angle yes, not from the other angle.


I want to find the other angle to post here because that is where I initially say Graham's left hand hitting Cousins' throwing motion.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Sep 11, 2017 13:06:18

The ball was clearly coming out before any forward motion.

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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby gr » Mon Sep 11, 2017 14:34:47

Nellie may have some good games in the slot, thata to his speed, but the screen didn't work and he doesn't brealbtackles, so his upside is limited there. The occasional fly pattern with an LB on him prob makes it worth it.
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Re: Another Season of Disappointment Begins! Eagles Skins GD

Postby Ace Rothstein » Mon Sep 11, 2017 14:39:03

gr wrote:Nellie may have some good games in the slot, thata to his speed, but the screen didn't work and he doesn't brealbtackles, so his upside is limited there. The occasional fly pattern with an LB on him prob makes it worth it.


If they had other WRs that could block the WR screen would work

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