Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Dec 21, 2016 16:05:24

the question should've been if he took a fucking intelligence briefing

it came out he didn't take one earlier; he started tweeting about the Chinese taking a US drone AFTER they already gave it back.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Soren » Wed Dec 21, 2016 16:44:08

Youseff wrote:
Nately gaped at him in undisguised befuddlement. “Now I really don’t understand what you’re saying. You talk like a madman.”

“But I live like a sane one. I was a fascist when Mussolini was on top, and I an an anti-fascist now that he has been deposed. I was fanatically pro-German when the Germans were here to protect us against the Americans, and now that the Americans are here to protect us against the Germans I am fanatically pro-American. I can assure you, my outraged young friend” – the old man’s knowing, disdainful eyes shown even more effervescently as Nately’s stuttering dismay increased


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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Dec 21, 2016 16:48:38

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pacino wrote:i highlighted yesterday how unpopular he is. You have to do something with it. he can be as unpopular as he wants for the next two years and still gut everything we hold dear. it doesn't matter. people with time to waste were wasting time on a recount instead of going after a Louisiana senate seat. Dems need to use it to regain state control and rebuild for 2018/2020. Acting like it's just going to happen without some action is dangerous. Perhaps you're not suggesting that, but you left it out of your responses to JFLNYC.

The first thing that needs to be done is downplaying the importance of the DNC chair...simply because both of the major two candidates are perfectly fine and either would help but they don't really do much to shape ideology like seems to be the current idea. They figure out how to spread money around; whoever does that better should be elected. It's also not really our say, unless you're in a local party (my wife is now so she gets a vote!).

Wasting precious energy on BS like going back and forth on the DNC chair instead of forcing their legislators to oppose in Congress is one of the first things many Dems/liberals are doing completely wrong.


It would be a good idea if we could figure out a way to identify strong progressive candidates in various state legislative elections and use social networking to channel small contributions their way. There really is no reason why progressives can't use a Tea Party strategy to win these elections. Remember, a big reason why we are where we are is because Republicans run state legislatures all over the county. They use that power to make voting more difficult, thus cementing those victories. The DNC could be setting something like this up--it would not take a ton of resources to do it.

And there are progressive issues like raising the minimum wage that are popular regardless of the prevailing ideology--even Arkansas voted to raise its minimum wage a couple of years ago.


I think the tea party was funded largely by astroturf organizations, but I agree with the premise.

I think Obama has said he would spend his post-presidency time working on undoing the gerrymandering, so maybe that work would have the side benefit of getting dems back into state legislatures. As it is, ALEC and similar organizations are running the show at the state level with the help of GOP legislators. I agree this is where we need to start. Of course, it's hard when you also have to fight a potential tyrant in the white house. Busy busy busy
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 09:15:58

pacino wrote:Now that the election is over and now that they used a previous legislative session to strip the incoming governor of a bunch of power, outgoing Gov McCrory called a new special legislative session in order to repeal HB2. Super strong incoming governor Roy Cooper, who definitely won't lose in 4 years, was assured it would happen:
“Senate Leader Phil Berger and House Speaker Tim Moore assured me that as a result of Charlotte’s vote, a special session will be called for Tuesday to repeal HB 2 in full,” Cooper said in a statement. “I hope they will keep their word to me and with the help of Democrats in the legislature, HB2 will be repealed in full.

Cooper’s statement followed the Charlotte City Council’s 10-0 vote Monday morning to rescind the LGBT ordinance that prompted HB 2.

But in a joint statement of their own, Berger and Moore cast doubt on Cooper’s claim that they’d committed to a special session.

“Today Roy Cooper and Jennifer Roberts proved what we said was the case all along: their efforts to force men into women's bathrooms and shower facilities was a political stunt to drive out-of-state money into the governor's race,” the Republican leaders said.

“For months, we've said if Charlotte would repeal its bathroom ordinance that created the problem, we would take up the repeal of HB2. But Roy Cooper is not telling the truth about the legislature committing to call itself into session – we've always said that was Gov. McCrory's decision, and if he calls us back, we will be prepared to act. For Cooper to say otherwise is a dishonest and disingenuous attempt to take credit.”

It's gonna be another fun 4 years in North Carolina.

the legislature didn't repeal it! Republicans wanted to keep aspects of it and Democrats wouldn't budge so it fell apart. But don't worry, Charlotte still repealed their NON-discrimination law. Discrimination wins!
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Dec 22, 2016 09:17:46

Yea, North Carolina Republicans are the worst. I don't mind that the good act of re-establishing the office there may have helped Trump carry the state, but I am second guessing helping those power grabbing scumbags.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 09:18:39

Carl fucking Icahn is going to be a special adviser to Trump on regulatory matters. it's not 'official' so he can suggest repeal certain regulations while still doing business! yay! drain that swamp!
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 09:25:20

estimate of the 2020 re-apportionment of House seats based on the updated 2016 census data as it stands (if 2020 were today):

Florida: +1 (to 28)
Illinois: -1 (to 17)
Michigan -1 (to 13)
Minnesota -1 (to 7)
North Carolina +1 (to 14)
Oregon +1 (to 6)
Pennsylvania -1 (to 17)
Texas +1 (to 37)


Real Clear Politics extrapolated from the data and projected to 2020:

Alabama: -1 (to 6)
Arizona: +1 (to 10)
Colorado: +1 (to 8)
Florida: +2 (to 29)
Illinois: -1 (to 17)
Michigan: -1 (to 13)
Minnesota: -1 (to 7)
New York: -1 (to 26)
North Carolina: +1 (to 14)
Ohio: -1 (to 15)
Oregon: +1 (to 6)
Pennsylvania: -1 (to 17)
Rhode Island: -1 (to 1)
Texas: +3 (to 39)
West Virginia: -1 (to 2)
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 09:40:39

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:06:23

Quick Google shows that GoGo is wrong with regards to the Kiwi and the Banana.

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby td11 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:48:49

pacino wrote:Drug wholesalers shipped 9 million pain pills over two years to a single West Virginia pharmacy
boy, i wonder why overdoses and heroin addiction occurs

Devastating read
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:56:43

ACA enrollments:

"The five states with the most people enrolling for coverage on the site through Monday were Florida, with 1.3 million plan selections, Texas (776,000), North Carolina (369,000), Georgia (352,000) and Pennsylvania (291,000). Mr. Trump carried all those states."
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:02:00

one of the states with the largest increases in healthcare coverage since the ACA started has been Kentucky. They hate Obamacare. They loved Kynect (Obamacare by another name). It didn't matter...Republican Matt Bevin won on getting rid of Kynect and did. People like receiving help. They don't like other people receiving help.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Grotewold » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:03:49

That's exactly it

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:21:49

As terrible as our state is, and as especially terrible as most of our Republican state legislators are, we at least haven't dismantled Medicaid expansion. Again, I do think the Arkansas Republican strategy of rebranding (first they called it the "Private Option" and then they renamed it "Arkansas Works") Obamacare could be a winner for Trump and the Republicans nationally. And because of that, I do think Dems should oppose them, and that, combined with the true believing repeal Republicans (and given Trump's cabinet choices) means that as long as the Dems hold strong, they can score political points.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:25:47

ACA was rebranded as Kynect in Kentucky; the difference was it was branded by a Democrat so the Republican ran against that. If Republicans rebrand it, most Republican voters will likely reflexively start to like it.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:45:17

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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Brantt » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:51:27

pacino wrote:NSEERS is out!


LMAO
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:01:40

Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:NSEERS is out!


LMAO

the failed, useless program has been stricken from regulations. it takes time to come up with new regulations that would try to discriminate against people immigrating to our country. this is a smart, logical move by the current administration. I'm sure the new one will attempt to create a new one, but that will now take that much longer.

but please, LMAO all you want.
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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby Brantt » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:18:04

pacino wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:NSEERS is out!


LMAO

the failed, useless program has been stricken from regulations. it takes time to come up with new regulations that would try to discriminate against people immigrating to our country. this is a smart, logical move by the current administration. I'm sure the new one will attempt to create a new one, but that will now take that much longer.

but please, LMAO all you want.


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Re: Putin The Donald in the White House - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:28:15

you not understanding how programs get created or how they get and keep their legal justification isn't news to me, but you never actually defending all the trash that is being heaped on our nation but still laughing about it is simply weird. he's a conman, you were conned, and you're happy about it. i realize you think this is some big trolljob on the 'elites' or whatever, but that actually will have consequences. and they won't be good.

and apparently you've bought into the fake war on christmas. have a great day.
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