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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Tue Dec 13, 2016 19:25:56

There was a WaPo article yesterday called Donald Trump still does not understand the unemployment rate. It has a video with gummy bears incase the Donald actual "reads" it.
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Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 13, 2016 23:59:51

Apparently Tillerson has allowed as to how his favorite book is Atlas Shrugged


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Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Dec 14, 2016 03:14:18

Ayn Rand is slowly moving up the list of people from history I would consider killing if I had a time machine.

I think she just moved past henry kissinger.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby pacino » Wed Dec 14, 2016 08:31:34

republicans are coming for social security

if nothing is done then in 18 years benefits may be cut 21%...SO what we need to do to fix it is to make sure it gets cut 28-40%!!!!


once they make it a means-tested program it loses political backing and is more likely to get further cuts in the future because the poor have no political say and will quickly become scapegoats when their $800 benefit turns into $910 while everyone else's amount goes way way down. but, that's the goal, to kill the political backing behind the program.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby pacino » Wed Dec 14, 2016 08:49:23

admitting privileges blocked in Oklahoma for abortion providers because they're obviously unconstitutional.

but don't worry! a new regulation (they love regulations SOMETIMES) will require signs in all bathrooms:
OKLAHOMA CITY - In a Tuesday morning meeting, the Oklahoma State Board of Health passed rules on anti-abortion signs that would be required to be placed in any bathroom open to the public, according to a law passed in the last Legislative session.
The law is titled the Humanity of the Unborn Child Act. It was an omnibus anti-abortion measure which included the promotion of anti-abortion lessons in classrooms and the creation of an information webpage by the State Department of Health (SDH) based on the anti-abortion website awomansright.org.

It also requires all bathrooms licensed to the SDH to post signs reading, "there are many public and private agencies willing and able to help you carry your child to term and assist you after your child is born, whether you keep your child or place him or her for adoption. The state of Oklahoma strongly urges you to contact them if you are pregnant."

once those kids pop out of the womb they'll be forgotten by the State of Oklahoma, but that part wasn't required to be added to the sign. Oklahoma Child Welfare Services is currently being controlled by the feds because the state can't run the program properly.

also, it's an unfunded mandate:
The signs are required to be posted by 2018 and will be in places like schools, restaurants and hospitals. Conservative estimates on the cost are more than $2 million and the state did not designate money to help shoulder the cost.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby pacino » Wed Dec 14, 2016 09:13:33

BILL O’REILLY (HOST): Here's the deal. President Obama has made it a cause to go out and try to convince Americans that number one selling heroin’s not a violent crime. That's insane to me. Because I have seen what heroin does to people. All right? And number two, he does this because he believes that the justice system is unfair to black heroin dealers, see? Because more of them are arrested. The black heroin dealers and the crack dealers who are out on the streets, who are actually pedaling on the streets and are easier to arrest. He sees this as a racial thing. So he has tied the racial thing in to his permissive attitude about narcotics and what do we have? An explosion, an explosion of heroin use. Kids wanting to try it thinking it's cool. And that comes from the top. The leadership of this country so it is his fault.

the reason for heroin increase is Obama's racism
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby pacino » Wed Dec 14, 2016 09:29:19

drsmooth wrote:pains me to point out, but 21st Century Cures Act, last significant law Obama will sign, is a porky piece of crap

not sure why it had to move money around instead of simply investing more money into public health programs. looks like the FDA is toast.
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Unread postby thephan » Wed Dec 14, 2016 09:31:19

Now that being incoherent is cool, O'Rielly has stepped up his game. There is so much going on in that quote.

1. Affirming the Maine Governor assertion that a majority of dealers are minorities (how about the users Bill, significantly white, but drugs don't discriminate).
2. Heroine is cool? Like the cool kids? Because the president says so? I am missing something here.
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Unread postby JFLNYC » Wed Dec 14, 2016 09:33:25

pacino wrote:republicans are coming for social security

if nothing is done then in 18 years benefits may be cut 21%...SO what we need to do to fix it is to make sure it gets cut 28-40%!!!!


once they make it a means-tested program it loses political backing and is more likely to get further cuts in the future because the poor have no political say and will quickly become scapegoats when their $800 benefit turns into $910 while everyone else's amount goes way way down. but, that's the goal, to kill the political backing behind the program.


As written, Johnson's proposal is DOA. The only people who benefit are the very poor. Everyone else -- the people who vote -- would see their benefits cut. The Pubs may yet try to tinker with SS but, if they do, it will most likely start with something which screws the poor, e.g., just raising the minimum retirement age. If they try to reduce benefits for anyone currently receiving benefits (or close to doing so) they'll have zero support and will likely screw themselves in the 2018 mid-terms.

Come to think of it, I hope they try! :wink:
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby pacino » Wed Dec 14, 2016 09:42:19

thephan wrote:Now that being incoherent is cool, O'Rielly has stepped up his game. There is so much going on in that quote.

1. Affirming the Maine Governor assertion that a majority of dealers are minorities (how about the users Bill, significantly white, but drugs don't discriminate).
2. Heroin is cool? Like the cool kids? Because the president says so? I am missing something here.

i'm thinking of one of my friends who has been in rehab twice because of it. He started because he had back pain after a surgery and took too many pills and then got addicted...he replaced it with heroin and went from there. he now has that sunken face look.

he didn't think it was 'cool', he got addicted to legal drugs then replaced them for a cheaper version. but it was also obama
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby Werthless » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:00:11

Werthless wrote:Could Trump lose his hotel on Pennsylvania avenue for violating the terms of the lease? Maybe!

A little-noticed clause in the document, which Trump signed with the General Services Administration before he ran for president, no "elected official of the Government ... shall be admitted to any share or part of this Lease, or to any benefit that may arise therefrom."
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Schooner has argued the case against Trump's ownership of the hotel in recent weeks. He said the fix has to come from the GSA, and he said one option is for the agency to terminate the contract because of the breach.

"It should not be difficult for GSA to figure out that they have a number of obvious solutions," he said.

Schooner said the Trump Organization could sue the GSA should the agency end the contract, but he said the government would have a strong legal case in court. Nobody forced Trump to run for president two years after he signed the lease.

Even if the GSA were to lose, the monetary damages would probably be small, Schooner said, and the Trump Organization would not regain control of the hotel.
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"I don't really understand what they're doing right now," Schooner said. "GSA got themselves into this mess. They have to get themselves out of it."

GSA has now said that the hotel will be in breach of the lease on inauguration day unless Trump sells.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby pacino » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:04:31

shocker
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby pacino » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:26:04

Gambian security forces take control of the electoral commission headquarters as the Gambian president refuses to accept the loss of the election. He had led the nation for 22 years. Other West African leaders have been trying to persuade him to step down. they have this thing in their election laws where the person with the most votes wins. It's weird.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby Werthless » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:04:21

pacino wrote:shocker

Not sure if serious, but I didn't think it was obvious the agency would act. It's an interesting case, since Trump can simply replace the head of the agency that is terminating the lease, and then he can theoretically have the new head rewrite the lease. He does the best deals! It would be a toxic political move that would burn some of his political capital, but it's Trump, so who knows what he'll do.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby Youseff » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:05:44

so Duterte has admitted he's literally murdered folks, bragged about it really.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:07:58

pacino wrote:
BILL O’REILLY (HOST): Here's the deal. President Obama has made it a cause to go out and try to convince Americans that number one selling heroin’s not a violent crime. That's insane to me. Because I have seen what heroin does to people. All right? And number two, he does this because he believes that the justice system is unfair to black heroin dealers, see? Because more of them are arrested. The black heroin dealers and the crack dealers who are out on the streets, who are actually pedaling on the streets and are easier to arrest. He sees this as a racial thing. So he has tied the racial thing in to his permissive attitude about narcotics and what do we have? An explosion, an explosion of heroin use. Kids wanting to try it thinking it's cool. And that comes from the top. The leadership of this country so it is his fault.

the reason for heroin increase is Obama's racism


What in the actual fuck is O'Reilly talking about? That imbecile is actually suggesting that our President thinks using heroin is "cool"? Future generations may need to go no further than that paragraph to figure out why we are stuck with Trump and his poker buddies for the next four years. Actually, the combination of the O'Reilly paragraph and the bit of the health insurance interview that CB posted yesterday is all one needs to know.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby joe table » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:08:08

Fb feed post:

"I need to apologize for my insensitivity. It figures as a human highly socialized in white, male supremacy, that I would pre-maturely celebrate a #NoDAPL reconciliation between indigenous peoples and their accomplices and corporations and the gov't. The fight is not over, clearly. Human survival is put the test against the corporate interests our gov't protects."

I have absolutely zero qualms w ppl having a strong taek on this issue, supporting the non-imperialist side and trying to raise awareness and mobilize support, but I just find it interesting that like 80% of the political themed posts on my feed are set up in this style (i.e., not trying to directly link to a fundraising or petition site but instead basically saying "hey look at me fellow white libs, I'm woke as fkkk on this issue and [X is pure evil] and/or [if you aren't talking about this right now u r history's greatest monster]."

Honestly I can see why trumptards are annoyed by libs on fb/media, they are often condescending, annoying and hyperbolic and the echo chamber on my social media at least us undeniable. Pair that with ppls tendencies to be attention seeking know it alls and it gets unbearable at times

Problem with liberal arts degrees i guess is that you end up over educated but often with tons of time to spend pontificating on Internet instead of trying to pay the rent/mortgage. Say this as a former liberal arts shithead who has frequently been underemployed and am an internet know it all myself just so I'm not being inconsistent here

Also I guess I'm getting old

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Unread postby Youseff » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:12:28

this concept of being a smug twat in an echo chamber is not unique to the left. just dip your toes in really any politically active community that doesn't have strict moderation, including mass media. watch a Huckabee segment on Fox News for 30 seconds and the smug is pouring through the pixels on the tv.
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Unread postby jamiethekiller » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:15:50

social media is the worst. my mom said she's tired of people telling her what to do. i asked her "when you walk out that door, who's telling you what?" "Who's getting in your face and yelling at you?" She didn't have an answer. Fox News is just telling her how awful everything is and then she goes on facebook and gets in dumb arguments with millenials. None of that has any semblance of a real world interaction. Her 'contractor' is an illegal guy from central america. great guy, she loves him and he takes care of my mom really well. She goes to the laundromat to do her laundry and talks to all of the latinx that are in there.

Her life would be infinitely better if she didn't watch fox news/24-7 news and read facebook.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Unread postby Woody » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:17:05

joe table wrote:Fb feed post:

"I need to apologize for my insensitivity. It figures as a human highly socialized in white, male supremacy, that I would pre-maturely celebrate a #NoDAPL reconciliation between indigenous peoples and their accomplices and corporations and the gov't. The fight is not over, clearly. Human survival is put the test against the corporate interests our gov't protects."

I have absolutely zero qualms w ppl having a strong taek on this issue, supporting the non-imperialist side and trying to raise awareness and mobilize support, but I just find it interesting that like 80% of the political themed posts on my feed are set up in this style (i.e., not trying to directly link to a fundraising or petition site but instead basically saying "hey look at me fellow white libs, I'm woke as fkkk on this issue and [X is pure evil] and/or [if you aren't talking about this right now u r history's greatest monster]."

Honestly I can see why trumptards are annoyed by libs on fb/media, they are often condescending, annoying and hyperbolic and the echo chamber on my social media at least us undeniable. Pair that with ppls tendencies to be attention seeking know it alls and it gets unbearable at times

Problem with liberal arts degrees i guess is that you end up over educated but often with tons of time to spend pontificating on Internet instead of trying to pay the rent/mortgage. Say this as a former liberal arts shithead who has frequently been underemployed and am an internet know it all myself just so I'm not being inconsistent here

Also I guess I'm getting old


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