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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Bucky » Sun Nov 27, 2016 22:27:30

thephan wrote: everything about this president elect seems to have been predicted by his projecting upon his opponent.


It's the right's playbook these days. (not ALL of them- for example, I've never been accused of drinking too much EW :) . For example, this turd of a meme keeps repeating itself in different variations- the latest is "Racism was almost dead in America...until Obama". That is infuriating. I don't want to say these people are stupid, but...they're stupid.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 09:58:58

Betsy DeVos' former group:
A pro-school-choice organization once directed by Besty DeVos, President-elect Donald Trump's nominee for education secretary, owes a record $5.3 million in fines to the Ohio Elections Commission.

All Children Matter Inc. was directed by DeVos, whom Trump nominated Wednesday as the nation's top education official, when it ran afoul of Ohio campaign-finance laws in 2008.

The Ohio Elections Commission unanimously ruled that All Children Matter violated state law by illegally channeling $870,000 in contributions from its Virginia PAC to its then-unregistered Ohio PAC, violating a state law that restricts political action committees to accepting no more than $10,000 from a single source.

The Ohio PAC donated in 2006 to legislative and statewide candidates who supported school choice and tax-paid vouchers for private schools.

All Children Matter, which terminated its PAC registration in Ohio early this year, was founded by DeVos and her husband, billionaire Amway heir Richard DeVos, in Michigan in 2003.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby JUburton » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:33:40

Seems that there are some Booker/DeVos links too. Maybe he's not the 2020 guy.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaMound/status/ ... 6439853056

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:40:01

He's previously mounted defenses of Wall St that would make those opposed to Clinton think she was Sanders.

He's not the guy.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:05:36

...billionaire (pyramid scheme) Amway heir Richard DeVos...

'Nuff Said.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby laf837 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:36:16

do not trust cory booker in the least. carpet-bagger and political opportunist/ladder-climber in the clinton vein.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:47:42

the coal company bankruptcy scheme
one major company 'overlooked' 100 million in outstanding debt. Previously, these companies bet big on a speculative type of coal (sound familiar?) and it crashed; so, they declared bankruptcy, the local people suffered but the execs keep humming along starting new companies and making money:

Here’s what DEP is charging, in simpler language: Alpha executives knew their company was tanking. So they convinced regulators to let them create a new company, Contura, with all the still-valuable parts of Alpha. Then they defected to the shiny new company.

To pull it off, they had to convince regulators that the left-behind company, Alpha, would still be viable and able to cover its remaining environmental obligations. They had to make Alpha’s cash flow look good. And they did … by leaving $100 million out of the picture.

And get this: They wrote into the bankruptcy agreement that the executives who defected to Contura could not be held liable if Alpha goes belly up.


voila!
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:53:07

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Grotewold » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:54:41

The Fete

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby drsmooth » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:55:04

That's pretty coal'ed, as the kids might say
Yes, but in a double utley you can put your utley on top they other guy's utley, and you're the winner. (Swish)

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:59:17

it'll be interesting to see what OPEC decides to do going forward. They've been overproducing oil for a while now to hurt natural gas but it hasn't really worked as they planned it. They initially planned to cut production but it looks like Russia and Iran are getting frisky

lots of important stuff happening right now. we better see what Trump tweets about them (i'm as guilty as the rest of us).
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:39:34

thephan wrote:...billionaire (pyramid scheme) Amway heir Richard DeVos...

'Nuff Said.

Betsy's brother founded Blackwater. This family couldn't possibly be more the polar opposite of what Trump's supporters believed that he stood for.

Yet they (mostly) stand silent.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:44:26

One "courageous" Electoral College voter from Texas is resigning because he can't vote for Trump.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/art-sisneros-elector-resigns-over-trump

I do not see how Donald Trump is biblically qualified to serve in the office of the Presidency. Of the hundreds of angry messages that I have received, not one has made a convincing case from scripture otherwise," he wrote on his blog "The Blessed Path." "If Trump is not qualified and my role, both morally and historically, as an elected official is to vote my conscience, then I can not and will not vote for Donald Trump for President. I believe voting for Trump would bring dishonor to God."

"Since I can’t in good conscience vote for Donald Trump, and yet have sinfully made a pledge that I would, the best option I see at this time is to resign my position as an Elector," Sisneros continued. "This will allow the remaining body of Electors to fill my vacancy when they convene on Dec 19 with someone that can vote for Trump. The people will get their vote. They will get their Skittles for dinner. I will sleep well at night knowing I neither gave in to their demands nor caved to my convictions. I will also mourn the loss of our republic."


Screw this guy. If he believes that Trump is an immoral, unfit candidate, then stay in and vote against him. Don't get on your moral high horse, then turn tail and run while saying that the voters "will get their Skittles for dinner" and that he will "mourn for the loss of the republic." Either vote for him, Clinton, or whomever you deem appropriate, then face whatever consequences arise in Texas for breaching the oath he took to abide by the choice of the people. If he believes that Trump is a mortal danger to the health of our nation (which he seems to believe), then he is one of the few people with the power to do something about it at this point... yet he relinquishes it.

(To make clear, I don't have a problem with him resigning. I have a problem with the content of his statement, which is ridiculous.)

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:29:53

I liked the biblical thing... guy sounds largely unqualified to do much of anything
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Bucky » Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:30:42

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:This family couldn't possibly be more the polar opposite of what Trump's supporters believed that he stood for.

Yet they (mostly) stand silent.


It has become apparent that they really don't care WHAT he stands for. they just voted for a celebrity.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:32:18

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:One "courageous" Electoral College voter from Texas is resigning because he can't vote for Trump.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/art-sisneros-elector-resigns-over-trump

I do not see how Donald Trump is biblically qualified to serve in the office of the Presidency. Of the hundreds of angry messages that I have received, not one has made a convincing case from scripture otherwise," he wrote on his blog "The Blessed Path." "If Trump is not qualified and my role, both morally and historically, as an elected official is to vote my conscience, then I can not and will not vote for Donald Trump for President. I believe voting for Trump would bring dishonor to God."

"Since I can’t in good conscience vote for Donald Trump, and yet have sinfully made a pledge that I would, the best option I see at this time is to resign my position as an Elector," Sisneros continued. "This will allow the remaining body of Electors to fill my vacancy when they convene on Dec 19 with someone that can vote for Trump. The people will get their vote. They will get their Skittles for dinner. I will sleep well at night knowing I neither gave in to their demands nor caved to my convictions. I will also mourn the loss of our republic."


Screw this guy. If he believes that Trump is an immoral, unfit candidate, then stay in and vote against him. Don't get on your moral high horse, then turn tail and run while saying that the voters "will get their Skittles for dinner" and that he will "mourn for the loss of the republic." Either vote for him, Clinton, or whomever you deem appropriate, then face whatever consequences arise in Texas for breaching the oath he took to abide by the choice of the people. If he believes that Trump is a mortal danger to the health of our nation (which he seems to believe), then he is one of the few people with the power to do something about it at this point... yet he relinquishes it.

(To make clear, I don't have a problem with him resigning. I have a problem with the content of his statement, which is ridiculous.)

don't worry, he'll be replaced by someone willing to make that vote, so Mr Sisneros' hands are clean. why even take the job to begin with?

I will sleep well at night knowing I neither gave in to their demands nor caved to my convictions

so many people appear to think this way. your vote has to be pure and 100% perfect.
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby Bucky » Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:40:57

Meh, I think the guy finds himself between a rock and a hard place. Either break his "pledge" or cast his vote for the lunatic. Is there perchance some sort of "binding" pledge that is deployed in Texas??

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:44:12

the Texas Constitution says they're supposed to vote for the winner but there's no penalty
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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:51:16

Bucky wrote:Meh, I think the guy finds himself between a rock and a hard place. Either break his "pledge" or cast his vote for the lunatic. Is there perchance some sort of "binding" pledge that is deployed in Texas??

Again, it's not so much the decision as the absurd combination of his statement and the decision.

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Re: ( Politics) Trump transition:working with no intelligenc

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 28, 2016 15:10:44

if you were wondering what currently governing Republicans are up to Paul Ryan and the House is currently seeking to roll back regulations to OPEN UP THE FREE MARKET. Can't wait.
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