jerseyhoya wrote:

I mean

Houshphandzadeh wrote:since it seems like a big issue that will come up that isn't totally dictated by ideological flexing, what's the Republican line of thinking as to gutting Medicare and Social Security? why do they think that's good and whatnot

Houshphandzadeh wrote:since it seems like a big issue that will come up that isn't totally dictated by ideological flexing

JUburton wrote:ah yes, this was a repudiation by the white working class and their reward will be gutting and privatization of social programs many of them have come to rely on. excellent choice!

JUburton wrote:ah yes, this was a repudiation by the white working class and their reward will be gutting and privatization of social programs many of them have come to rely on. excellent choice!

06hawkalum wrote:And even if the GOP does substantially damage those social safety nets, a significant number of the white working class will continue to vote Republican because of abortion.

06hawkalum wrote: Roe v. Wade caused more long lasting damage to the Democratic Party than any other court decision or piece of legislation, including the Civil Rights Act.

drsmooth wrote:

06hawkalum wrote: Roe v. Wade caused more long lasting damage to the Democratic Party than any other court decision or piece of legislation, including the Civil Rights Act.

I'll probably regret this, but ... can you elaborate on the non-adjacent reasoning behind this assertion, which seems to have been cut/pasted onto the end of the rest of your post?

Texas’ proposed rules requiring the cremation or burial of fetal remains will take effect Dec. 19, according to state health officials.

Despite intense outcry from the medical community and reproductive rights advocates, the state will prohibit hospitals, abortion clinics and other health care facilities from disposing of fetal remains in sanitary landfills, instead allowing only cremation or burial of all remains — regardless of the period of gestation.

Texas health officials, who quietly proposed the rules in July, are adopting the new requirements with few changes following months of public comment periods, two hours-long hearings and more than 35,000 comments submitted to the state’s Health and Human Services Commission.

The rules were drafted through the health agency's "rulemaking authority," but Republican lawmakers have already filed legislation to write the rules into statute when the Legislature reconvenes in January.

Grotewold wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:And even if the GOP does substantially damage those social safety nets, a significant number of the white working class will continue to vote Republican because of abortion.

We can quibble about "a significant number," but I think the larger issues are hopelessness, hatred of the status quo, and short attention spans.

Not saying I like this but "Yes we can" and hope and change and "Make America Great Again" were the right messages for the current climate. "I'm With Her," less so.

06hawkalum wrote: Note, I am not claiming that the the court decision was wrong, just that it has given culture warriors on the right a yuge advantage over their counterparts on the left.

CalvinBall wrote:her main slogan was stronger together

drsmooth wrote:

06hawkalum wrote: Note, I am not claiming that the the court decision was wrong, just that it has given culture warriors on the right a yuge advantage over their counterparts on the left.

Yea... as I figured... I'm not really at all sure it's as one-sided as it seems like you imagine it's been