CalvinBall wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:any chance the VP debate gives Clinton a bump? He seems pretty likable and I don't think people will like Pence's views once they hear them. And for those who think Clinton is going to drop over dead any second, her VP pick might ease their minds.

well from the guy JH has posted a bit from this morning...

Ryan Struyk ‏@ryanstruyk 8m8 minutes ago
New CBS poll: No one knows who Mike Pence and Tim Kaine are.

Pence: 19-13% favorability (67% idk)
Kaine: 24-19% favorability (57% idk)

"I mean this sincerely: I’m glad the left pushes me on this. I’ve said to my staff and I’ve said to my joint chiefs, I’ve said in the Situation Room: I don’t ever want to get to the point where we’re that comfortable with killing. It’s not why I wanted to be president, to kill people. I want to educate kids and give people health care and help feed the hungry and alleviate poverty."

Subsequently, I think we’ve learned that IOC’s decisions are similar to FIFA’s decisions: a little bit cooked. We didn’t even make the first cut, despite the fact that, by all the objective metrics, the American bid was the best. On the flight back, we already know that we haven’t got it, and when I land it turns out that there was big cheering by Rush Limbaugh and various Republican factions that America had lost the Olympic bid. It was really strange, but at that point, Limbaugh had been much clearer about wanting to see me fail and had, I think, communicated that very clearly to his listeners. Fox News’ coverage had already started to drift in that direction, and what you realized during the course of the first six, eight, ten months of the administration was that the attitudes, the moods that I think Sarah Palin had captured during the election increasingly were representative of the Republican activist base, its core. It might not have been representative of Republicans across the country, but it meant that John Boehner or Mitch McConnell had to worry about that mood inside their party that felt that, No, we shouldn’t cooperate with Obama, we shouldn’t cooperate with Democrats; that it represents compromise, weakness, and that the broader character of America is at stake, regardless of whatever policy arguments might be made.

Monkeyboy wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:any chance the VP debate gives Clinton a bump? He seems pretty likable and I don't think people will like Pence's views once they hear them. And for those who think Clinton is going to drop over dead any second, her VP pick might ease their minds.

well from the guy JH has posted a bit from this morning...

Ryan Struyk ‏@ryanstruyk 8m8 minutes ago
New CBS poll: No one knows who Mike Pence and Tim Kaine are.

Pence: 19-13% favorability (67% idk)
Kaine: 24-19% favorability (57% idk)

That's what I figured. Both guys are from the middle of the country and aren't well known. But Pence has much more extreme views, in many ways more extreme than Trump. I don't think he'll play well in swing states.

A federal appeals court panel Monday blocked Indiana Gov. and Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence's attempt to keep Syrian refugees out of Indiana.

The court upheld a lower court judge in barring Pence from interfering with the distribution of federal funds to resettle Syrian refugees in his state. The appeals court panel said that federal law bars discrimination based on nationality.

In a unanimous opinion, the appeals court said Gov. Pence acted illegally in accepting federal money for refugee resettlement and then refusing to use that money to aid Syrian refugees.

The panel rejected Pence's argument that terrorists are posing as Syrian refugees to gain entry into the U.S., calling it a "nightmare speculation" based on no evidence. Indeed, the court said, the state presented no evidence that any Syrian refugee had been involved in a terrorist act in the U.S.

JUburton wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

thephan wrote:There's a Mormon was woman on NPR talking about how Mormons are peaceful and Muslims went to kill us. And how they want to come and more less, and a Trump style way, shoot up the school where you're kid goes. When she was told that I majority of the school shooters are white men, she went on to say she just does not believe that. This is what makes me nervous, fax or optional and core beliefs based on nothing are the Trump card and the calling.

quite a lot of Mormons detest the anti-Muslim policy of Trump, they know their own history of discrimination and see parallels
add in the fact that they see Trump as someone who is far from being moral. I think you'll see many of them voting for Evan McMullin

This one was an Arizona mormon (which actually has a pretty large mormon population, I think).

And don't be nervous. This is Trump's base...the 30% of people who are going to vote for him no matter what. Good news is they're mostly concentrated in deeply red states and won't affect the outcome of the election.

JUburton wrote:

thephan wrote:

JUburton wrote:

cartersDad26 wrote:Isn't Assange set to release something today that is supposedly gonna end Hillary? Not that I believe anything could end any of these guys.

He said that was a misquote but they will be releasing things in the next month.

That has gotten air play on DC news all day. Lets face it, the altruism is wearing off with meddling in politics. WikiLeaks is turning toward being the hacker communities front page, and ASSange is showing to be in it for his own glory. look at me, over here, I'm a good guy, see how smart I am (maybe he is Trump's illegitimate child).

He's been like this for years. It's been very brave of them to release the names of gay people in countries where they can be killed for it and personal information from dnc donors and medical records of children and rape victims. Dude's a rapist piece of garbage.

The B1G Piece wrote:

JUburton wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

thephan wrote:There's a Mormon was woman on NPR talking about how Mormons are peaceful and Muslims went to kill us. And how they want to come and more less, and a Trump style way, shoot up the school where you're kid goes. When she was told that I majority of the school shooters are white men, she went on to say she just does not believe that. This is what makes me nervous, fax or optional and core beliefs based on nothing are the Trump card and the calling.

quite a lot of Mormons detest the anti-Muslim policy of Trump, they know their own history of discrimination and see parallels
add in the fact that they see Trump as someone who is far from being moral. I think you'll see many of them voting for Evan McMullin

This one was an Arizona mormon (which actually has a pretty large mormon population, I think).

And don't be nervous. This is Trump's base...the 30% of people who are going to vote for him no matter what. Good news is they're mostly concentrated in deeply red states and won't affect the outcome of the election.

Yes, Arizona has a large Mormon population.

Also, Trump is up in the high country of Arizona today. At least we don't have to deal with his shit in the Valley.

jamiethekiller wrote:Loved the constant mention of the pillow over the head of her husbands head as he slept.

I agree that she's exactly the person the left is trying to help and the right is destroying with the destruction of social programs. The whole voting against your self interests thing.

No amount of Republican rhetoric is going to bring back coal mining jobs, either

Monica Alba ‏@albamonica 50s51 seconds ago
After today's stops in PA, Hillary Clinton has no public events until the debate Sunday. Few fundraisers on the sched but other time = prep.

Phred wrote:

jamiethekiller wrote:Loved the constant mention of the pillow over the head of her husbands head as he slept.

I agree that she's exactly the person the left is trying to help and the right is destroying with the destruction of social programs. The whole voting against your self interests thing.

No amount of Republican rhetoric is going to bring back coal mining jobs, either

Was it in this article that she was talking about the conspiracy surrounding Scalia's death and that how him being found with a pillow over his head while sleeping was the reason that she thought Obama had him killed? (or something like that)

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Gary Johnson everybody!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/years-before-aleppo-moment-gary-johnson-showed-little-interest-in-details-of-governing/2016/10/03/f62a00fa-873d-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html

Longtime state Sen. Stuart Ingle (R) recalled how Johnson, soon after taking office in 1995, mostly shrugged and stared during their first meeting together. As Ingle asked Johnson questions about his agenda, Ingle said, Johnson’s most common refrain was, “I don’t know.”

At the end of the meeting, Ingle said, Johnson revealed the one position on which he would hold firm: The state’s budget should not grow. And if legislation to do so passed, the new governor added, “I will veto it.”

Over the next eight years, New Mexico lawmakers would struggle to work with a governor who paid little attention to details. Those who worked closely with Johnson, then a Republican elected as a political novice vowing to shake up the established order, recall a chief executive who would speed through meetings and often preferred to discuss his fitness routine than focus on the minutiae of policymaking.

Johnson’s seemingly dismissive approach garnered him the nickname “Governor No.” In his first year in office, he vetoed 47 percent of the bills the legislature passed. Lawmakers took Johnson to court at least three times for overstepping his bounds — and won.

“A know-it-all dictator,” is how the late state representative Jerry Lee Alwin, a conservative Republican, described Johnson to the news media at the time. “He just doesn’t listen.”

Johnson shrugged off the criticism. He noted that any lawmaker was able to come speak with him during his “Open Door After Four” sessions, which offered any member of the public — not just politicians — a chance to make an appointment.

Those sessions were held once a month. Meetings lasted no longer than five minutes — a sufficient amount of time, Johnson said, for him to grasp the issues.

“I can figure things out; I have good instincts,” he told The Post. “I think I was born with an overdose of common sense.”

That last, bolded part sounds very, very familiar.

joe table wrote:NOLs are good tax policy notwithstanding trump and don't want to hear libs mad about this

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:I really really hope that this gets brought up tonight. With his background as both a missionary and a Governor, Kaine is the perfect person to do it.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/03/496466007/federal-court-blocks-gov-pences-attempt-to-block-syrian-refugees-from-indiana

A federal appeals court panel Monday blocked Indiana Gov. and Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence's attempt to keep Syrian refugees out of Indiana.

The court upheld a lower court judge in barring Pence from interfering with the distribution of federal funds to resettle Syrian refugees in his state. The appeals court panel said that federal law bars discrimination based on nationality.

In a unanimous opinion, the appeals court said Gov. Pence acted illegally in accepting federal money for refugee resettlement and then refusing to use that money to aid Syrian refugees.

The panel rejected Pence's argument that terrorists are posing as Syrian refugees to gain entry into the U.S., calling it a "nightmare speculation" based on no evidence. Indeed, the court said, the state presented no evidence that any Syrian refugee had been involved in a terrorist act in the U.S.

joe table wrote:Pence had this secretly evil "da Vinci code self flaggelating villain" look about him