Cleveland: The unconventional convention (politics)

by **Soren** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 08:33:18

77 dead, 3 months of state of emergency and forth coming drone strikes I'm sure. Typical Bastille day!

by **Youseff** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 08:34:15

Soren wrote:77 dead, 3 months of state of emergency and forth coming drone strikes I'm sure. Typical Bastille day!

how do we get this to stop?

by **Soren** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 08:36:43

Youseff wrote:
Soren wrote:77 dead, 3 months of state of emergency and forth coming drone strikes I'm sure. Typical Bastille day!

how do we get this to stop?

I think about this a lot. The amount of reconciliation that needs to happen between Western cultural and the Middle East is just so staggering. Even if we eliminate ISIS right now it doesn't mean Arabs living abroad won't be under constant scrutiny, won't be the target of hate and fear. That's going to go on for generations. It's just fucking heart breaking, it feels endless. I don't believe we'll see peace in our lifetimes.

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by **pacino** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 08:39:13

I think the drone strikes will fix it

by **Bucky** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 08:46:09

also, people are @#$$$ @#$#$ @@#$#$

by **Youseff** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 08:48:56

Soren wrote:
Youseff wrote:
Soren wrote:77 dead, 3 months of state of emergency and forth coming drone strikes I'm sure. Typical Bastille day!

how do we get this to stop?

I think about this a lot. The amount of reconciliation that needs to happen between Western cultural and the Middle East is just so staggering. Even if we eliminate ISIS right now it doesn't mean Arabs living abroad won't be under constant scrutiny, won't be the target of hate and fear. That's going to go on for generations. It's just fucking heart breaking, it feels endless. I don't believe we'll see peace in our lifetimes.

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maybe more coca cola commercials where Jews and Arabs are holding hands with other people in a field, waving back in forth in the comfort created by that delicious, sugary beverage would help?

by **Soren** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 08:55:33

I think scale-able alternatives to oil/gas would help a lot. Less reason for the US/Europe to fuck around in the Middle East and buddy up with shit heads. We'd still need oil for plastics/fertilizer but the demand would be a lot lower obviously.

by **TenuredVulture** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:03:03

There is no solution. A disturbed individual can latch onto any of a number of available "ideologies" that enables him to leverage whatever technology happens to be available to do a lot of harm.

I've long said that there really is no need to worry much about weapons of mass destruction--our intelligence and security services are well equipped to counter those efforts--the materials needed to make such weapons can be tracked, the people with the expertise or trying to acquire the expertise to deploy those weapons can be identified and stopped.

We probably do not need to worry about massive well coordinate 9/11 type attacks either--again, I think our security and intelligence services are well-equipped to sniff those out.

We live in a world that is for many reasons deeply alienating to many people. The alienation gives rise to anger and anger gives rise to violence.

by **Youseff** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:05:49

would the West leaving have a positive impact at this point? we'd probably just have a loose confederation of a Pan-Arab state, which is fine, every people should have a right to self-determination, but it'd be led by the worst, most extreme elements, and they'd have so much more money and resources.

by **Soren** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:13:22

Youseff wrote:would the West leaving have a positive impact at this point? we'd probably just have a loose confederation of a Pan-Arab state, which is fine, every people should have a right to self-determination, but it'd be led by the worst, most extreme elements, and they'd have so much more money and resources.

We have a great track record of forcing our form of government on other cultures, so I can see how it might be a good idea to keep trying.

by **The Crimson Cyclone** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:17:30

Soren wrote:I think scale-able alternatives to oil/gas would help a lot. Less reason for the US/Europe to fuck around in the Middle East and buddy up with shit heads. We'd still need oil for plastics/fertilizer but the demand would be a lot lower obviously.

let's pretend we figure out better batteries and fusion and the demand for oil plummets

wouldn't that destroy their economy to the point where the whole populace would want to war even more?

by **jerseyhoya** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:23:49

drsmooth wrote:R convention probably gonna give randomly selected delegates speaking slots, pick their names from a fishbowl onstage in real time. Excitement!

Almost all would do a better job explaining the virtues of conservatism than the guy they're there to nominate

by **jerseyhoya** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:33:46

French media reports say he has been identified as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, who lived locally

by **drsmooth** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:37:16

Who's surprised that Rs stink at pulling off a revolution, along with everything else?

by **Soren** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 09:37:19

Hadn't seen the name. What I had seen was that he was either Tunisian or French from a Tunisian family.

by **drsmooth** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:05:24

knew a guy who's middle name is Tunis. He's Irish

by **pacino** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:19:27

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
Soren wrote:I think scale-able alternatives to oil/gas would help a lot. Less reason for the US/Europe to #$!&@ around in the Middle East and buddy up with #$!&@ heads. We'd still need oil for plastics/fertilizer but the demand would be a lot lower obviously.

let's pretend we figure out better batteries and fusion and the demand for oil plummets

wouldn't that destroy their economy to the point where the whole populace would want to war even more?

Most of the populace simply wants to live

by **pacino** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:42:16

Soren wrote:
Gimpy wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Fox News ‏@FoxNews
.@newtgingrich: "We should...test every person here who is of a Muslim background, & if they believe in shariah they should be deported."

Newt, hearing the VP announcement is postponed, hopes to catch the Orangeman's eye with some counterproductive, unconstitutional racism

So if they're US citizens who are from the US, we should deport them… where, exactly?

Muslamistahn

How does this go down?

"Sir, do you believe in Sharia law?"

"No."

"Ok then. Carry on."

by **Woody** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:42:44

It doesn't, it's pandering to dumbfucks

by **pacino** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:43:59

Future Secretary of State Newt Gingrich

Sigh

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