#Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby swishnicholson » Tue Apr 19, 2016 00:22:35

Houshphandzadeh wrote:he might condone a secret surveillance program and make drone warfare the norm


Hey, he kept this country safe.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Apr 19, 2016 00:34:21

Bands performing at Bernie rallies the last couple of days: Grizzly Bear, TV on the Radio, Vampire Weekend, and members of Dirty Projectors.

That's pretty awesome.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Apr 19, 2016 00:39:05

I've heard of one of them, I think.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Apr 19, 2016 04:27:45

jerseyhoya wrote:https://vine.co/v/iFA2TupJhYt

Donald remembers the bravery of the police and firemen on 7/11



Maybe he meant FROM 7-11. You know, they were at 7-11 grabbing a Big Gulp and an overcooked hotdog when things went down. I know I'll never forget the heroes from 7-11.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:08:09

Sanders closing in on Clinton nationally, but always remember 2008:

she's overtaking him in the polls!!!!!! go with the momentum!
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:11:09

youguv is not very good, but this is fun:
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:20:18

Pentagon misled Senate on sexual assault cases
The Pentagon misled Congress by using inaccurate or vague information about sexual assault cases in an effort to blunt support for a Senate bill that would make a major change in how the military handles allegations of sexual misconduct, an Associated Press investigation found.

Internal government records that summarized the outcomes of dozens of cases portrayed civilian district attorneys and local police forces as less willing than senior military officers to punish sex offenders. The documents buttressed the Pentagon's position that stripping commanders of their authority to decide which crimes go to trial — as the Senate legislation proposes — will mean fewer victims will get justice because there will be fewer prosecutions.

But in a number of the cases, the steps taken by civilian authorities were described incorrectly or omitted, according to AP research and interviews. Other case descriptions were too imprecise to be verified.

basically, testimony given to the Senate when hearing Gillibrand's bill stated that local prosecutors declined to bring charges on certain alleged assaults...except that many of these crimes weren't even known to have existed by the local authorities because many never got out of the AF's purview, OR they were handed over to to the armed forces due to logistical reasons (which were never followed up on by the AF). many lawmakers based their reasoning for not allowing the bill to come to the floor on this falsehood.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby MoBettle » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:35:13

It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby JUburton » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:39:44

MoBettle wrote:It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.
Isn't that a state law? It's only for party switches or choosing a party if registered independent. I think voter registration deadline for new voters was about a month ago.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:40:10

MoBettle wrote:It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.


Yea, NY is one of the most archaic systems. I wonder how much it will cool #thebern (not that he was closing in on Hillary).
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:40:43

JUburton wrote:
MoBettle wrote:It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.
Isn't that a state law? It's only for party switches or choosing a party if registered independent. I think voter registration deadline for new voters was about a month ago.


You are correct I believe.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby MoBettle » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:42:49

JUburton wrote:
MoBettle wrote:It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.
Isn't that a state law? It's only for party switches or choosing a party if registered independent. I think voter registration deadline for new voters was about a month ago.


It is a state law, and a pretty hypocritical one if they really care about making it easy for people to vote.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby JUburton » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:50:14

MoBettle wrote:
JUburton wrote:
MoBettle wrote:It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.
Isn't that a state law? It's only for party switches or choosing a party if registered independent. I think voter registration deadline for new voters was about a month ago.


It is a state law, and a pretty hypocritical one if they really care about making it easy for people to vote.
I do agree it's extremely stupid and prohibitively early. Probably makes re-election easier which is why it's stuck around.

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:53:55

MoBettle wrote:
JUburton wrote:
MoBettle wrote:It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.
Isn't that a state law? It's only for party switches or choosing a party if registered independent. I think voter registration deadline for new voters was about a month ago.


It is a state law, and a pretty hypocritical one if they really care about making it easy for people to vote.


Who is "they?" New York is a state with a split party legislature (Dems hold lower house, Republicans hold higher house).
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby Soren » Tue Apr 19, 2016 08:59:26

Seems like a really shitty law but it's weird to use it as some gotcha moment for Dems not being pro voting rights in practice.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby MoBettle » Tue Apr 19, 2016 09:24:27

slugsrbad wrote:
MoBettle wrote:
JUburton wrote:
MoBettle wrote:It seems pretty hypocritical of democrats to cry about voter suppression but in New York you had to have registered back in freaking October 2015 to vote in their primary.
Isn't that a state law? It's only for party switches or choosing a party if registered independent. I think voter registration deadline for new voters was about a month ago.


It is a state law, and a pretty hypocritical one if they really care about making it easy for people to vote.


Who is "they?" New York is a state with a split party legislature (Dems hold lower house, Republicans hold higher house).

It's not a party rule? That's what I thought we meant by state law. If it's actually a state law then I guess it's a non issue
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby MoBettle » Tue Apr 19, 2016 09:32:38

Ok so it is a New York state rule. Never mind :themoreyouknow:
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Apr 19, 2016 09:49:50

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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:17:20

What's the deadline to register to vote in NY? When you register, you declare whether you're a Democrat or Republican right? And then you're good to go. I mean, I can see why it's good for parties to prevent people from switching or declaring themselves whatever whenever they want. Remember, as a group, independents are the least informed and least engaged voters. By failing to declare an allegiance with one party, they've indicated their lack of commitment to a set of political values. More states should do it like New York.
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Re: #Aprilandmayprimariesmatter (politics thread)

Postby pacino » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:36:05

some in Texas GOP push secession in county conventions:
A party committee will consider the resolutions for debate on the floor of the state GOP convention in Dallas May 12-14. The volume of independence resolutions -- from which party leaders are quick to distance themselves -- increases the possibility they could be approved for discussion, though the notion of secession would certainly be shot down swiftly on the convention floor.

Even Houston's Jared Woodfill, a tea party activist running to unseat Mechler as state party chairman, has been an ally.
"I absolutely think the people should have an opportunity to vote on this issue," he said.

For the record, the Supreme Court ruled in 1869 that states do not have a right to secede. Secessionists contend that the nation's laws are irrelevant once a state declares independence. However, they would compel the federal government to use force against any Texas rebellion, evoking recollections of the state's last disastrous attempt to secede.
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