Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby drsmooth » Sun Mar 20, 2016 13:35:38

TenuredVulture wrote:
Actually, quite the opposite I'm afraid. Racist rich people do a lot more damage than racist poor people. But at least they do that harm in nice, genteel ways.


now we're arguing magnitude ofindividuals' impact with respect to racial views, weighted by their economic resources? Feels like we're moving the burning crosses here....

Let's face it: 'racism' can be difficult to pin down. So can 'wealth', for that matter.

But it feels like you're trying to make the case that, if we had ourselves a consensus measure of racial animus, we'd find every bit as much of it, as measured by percent of population cohort, among, say, caucasians in the upper 20% the wealth spectrum as we would find among the lowest 1/5.

I'm open to that possibility. Do you have a source or sources of support for something like that?
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby CalvinBall » Sun Mar 20, 2016 13:39:22

Did we talk about Trump trailing both dem candidates in a state wide poll of Utah?

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Mar 20, 2016 13:48:02

CalvinBall wrote:Did we talk about Trump trailing both dem candidates in a state wide poll of Utah?

Is there a way for you to answer your own question?

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Mar 20, 2016 13:51:21

I'd much rather see a poll with Hillary v Cruz v Trump (I).

I'm not sure Trump qualifies for the debates in that scenario unless the media changes the rules to appease him.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby CalvinBall » Sun Mar 20, 2016 14:07:03

jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Did we talk about Trump trailing both dem candidates in a state wide poll of Utah?

Is there a way for you to answer your own question?


Yeah. Sometimes I don't like wading through all the tiring back and forth.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Mar 20, 2016 14:22:41

Now we're just guessing. Let's assume for this discussion that most people of all strata of society have some degree of racism from the merely patronizing all the way to white supremacists. What then?

If racism is still pervasive shall we support someone whose rhetoric and policies encourage and might even institutionalize forms of racism (e.g., barring all foreign Muslims from entering the country)? Shall we ignore that his supporters have chosen to ignore or at least forgive that rhetoric for whatever rationale they've chosen?

History teaches us that we ignore that sort of divisive and hateful rhetoric at our peril. There were many Germans who rationalized Hitler's rhetoric and deeds by believing that his active persecution of the Jews in the 30's was not Hitler's decision but that of his subordinates and that Hitler would straighten them out in time.

If one factor of Trump's appeal is that he "tells it like it is," why would any rationale person think he won't try to implement his proposed policies if elected? Either he's a racist and bigot or he's a pathological liar. I'll take neither, thank you very much and I'm certainly not going to take the chance that he means what he's saying nor am I prepared to grant some kind of moral equivalence to those who support him, rich or poor, educated or uneducated.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Postby pacino » Sun Mar 20, 2016 14:43:40

Either he's a racist and bigot or he's a pathological liar.

Not sure it's only either or
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Mar 20, 2016 18:24:17

Jon Favreau and Dan Pffeifer are apparently a part of The Ringer and will be doing political podcasts. First one dropped and is quite good.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Mar 20, 2016 20:46:08

Favreau is my everything.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby smitty » Sun Mar 20, 2016 21:00:44

Saunders is up in the Great State of Washington. He also spoke in Vancouver. He should get the Canadian vote. Not sure why no candidate tried this before.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sun Mar 20, 2016 21:31:02

Won't they all vote for their favorite son?
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Mar 20, 2016 21:37:25

Besides being untouchably better than me in every way in my career field, I have to say Favreau is quite the dream boat DiM.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby pacino » Sun Mar 20, 2016 21:38:42

Idk iron man 2 was kinda busy
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby TomatoPie » Sun Mar 20, 2016 21:52:10

TenuredVulture wrote: Think about how elite private universities blatantly discriminate against Asians.


Whoa, you got that all wrong.

YES - elite private AND state schools discriminate against Asians. But not for the reason of being non-white, but for the reason of being disproportionately qualified.

Indeed - white people now can be the beneficiaries of affirmative action, because as a group they underperform Asians.

And really, this is all you need to know about the "logic" used by the typical college administrator, so eager to be "fair" that they are blind to the value of admitting the academically qualified. Doesn't matter how much that Asian kid's family struggled and sacrificed to position him for success - give the spot to a white (or black, or green) kid who just didn't work as hard.

It's not white privilege or racial discrimination - it's simply some PC concept run amok.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sun Mar 20, 2016 22:14:53

It's not easy being green.
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby lethal » Sun Mar 20, 2016 23:05:41

TomatoPie wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote: Think about how elite private universities blatantly discriminate against Asians.


Whoa, you got that all wrong.

YES - elite private AND state schools discriminate against Asians. But not for the reason of being non-white, but for the reason of being disproportionately qualified.

Indeed - white people now can be the beneficiaries of affirmative action, because as a group they underperform Asians.

And really, this is all you need to know about the "logic" used by the typical college administrator, so eager to be "fair" that they are blind to the value of admitting the academically qualified. Doesn't matter how much that Asian kid's family struggled and sacrificed to position him for success - give the spot to a white (or black, or green) kid who just didn't work as hard.

It's not white privilege or racial discrimination - it's simply some PC concept run amok.


I'm often amazed how Asians (myself included) vote and advocate against self interest on this issue. It's a tough issue for liberal Asians.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby Bucky » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:29:43

Bucky wrote:if you think about it too long, making schoolkids recite the 'pledge of allegiance' every day is downright creepy.


Wow, just learned that this was recently a topic of conversation on Reddit. They must lurk here! And then there's this! See, I'm not the only one!!


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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby smitty » Sat Apr 02, 2016 14:48:14

Bucky wrote:
Bucky wrote:if you think about it too long, making schoolkids recite the 'pledge of allegiance' every day is downright creepy.


Wow, just learned that this was recently a topic of conversation on Reddit. They must lurk here! And then there's this! See, I'm not the only one!!



Interesting history.

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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby SK790 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 17:55:38

A couple of my friends were anti-pledgers in high school(atheists who hated the under God part). It's not worth it. I agreed with them in principle, but it's not worth having to constantly defend yourself to people who don't want others to upset the herd. You'd be bothered daily by classmates or teachers asking why you did it, why you hate America, why do you want to cause a disruption, etc...
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Re: Strongman competition results thread aka politics

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Apr 02, 2016 17:59:16

If Trump wins the Presidency a lot of Dems say they are moving to Canada, but I wonder where republican supporters would go if Clinton wins. Especially Cruzers....what country would better represent their ideals?
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