Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:25:47

traderdave wrote:It really is a toss-up as to who is the bigger embarrassment as Governor of New Jersey - McGreevey or Christie:

http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/15/0 ... side-down/


What a #$!&@ pandering scumbag.

i generally like common core, i must say.


in any event, has there been any mention of Christie's moves:

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or his friend getting a cushy job?
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Feb 11, 2015 13:27:43

Christie is turning more Jindal like every day.
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 11, 2015 13:40:55

Obama doesnt like Maureen Dowd

if there's one thing i dont want to read it's that Alexrod book, but at least I learned Obama disliked Maureen Dowd. So Obama's good people.
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Feb 11, 2015 15:14:59

dont wear your merkin in Montana

http://leg.mt.gov/bills/2015/billpdf/HB0365.pdf
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Feb 11, 2015 15:25:21

way to make me download a pdf file, dick
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Feb 11, 2015 15:28:11

Was .pdf an insufficient hint?

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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Feb 11, 2015 15:33:19

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:way to make me download a pdf file, dick


saved you some jail time, so its a wash no
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Feb 11, 2015 15:53:51

pacino wrote:Obama doesnt like Maureen Dowd

if there's one thing i dont want to read it's that Alexrod book, but at least I learned Obama disliked Maureen Dowd. So Obama's good people.


he was on npr last night. thought it was a good interview.

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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 11, 2015 22:18:04

So have we covered yet how Jebya really doesn't much get teh internets like he claims to? Not the hire of the jackass CTO, the unredacted email postings thing.
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 12, 2015 08:39:23

meet the plantiffs for King vs Burwell

read this entire thing. it's eye-opening.
Levy was under the impression that if the case prevailed, someone would surely fix the insurance situation, probably at the local level. "I think [Virginia's Democratic Gov.] Terry McAuliffe wants to expand Medicaid," she remarked. She didn't know that the Medicaid expansion was part of Obamacare, or that the same forces backing her lawsuit have opposed this expansion in her state. She was also unaware that there is no Plan B in the works to rescue the people who could lose their insurance if her case is successful.

Still, she's no fan of Obamacare. She claimed it gives the government control over Americans' medical treatment and that the law has spurred the IRS to expand. And she said she doesn't like the idea of young people subsidizing her insurance. Levy contended that Obamacare had caused many Americans to lose their insurance and for premiums to rise.

In fact, the percentage of uninsured Americans has fallen from 18 percent to 13.4 percent since the law took effect last year. And Obamacare has made health care more affordable than ever before. This especially holds true for Levy. She told me she faced monthly health care premiums of $1,500, which she attributed to health woes that have included two craniotomies and two hip replacements. "I've had some holes drilled in my head," she quipped. Levy hasn't checked out the plans she qualifies for under Obamacare, but a October 2013 affidavit filed by the government in King v. Burwell indicates that at that time she could have purchased a low-cost bronze plan on the federal exchange for $148 a month. Given this, it's unclear how Obamacare has caused her any real harm.



According to legal filings in his case, he's married and a smoker. When the lawsuit was filed in September 2013, King's projected 2014 income was $39,000, entitling him to a premium subsidy for health insurance that would allow him to purchase a bronze plan for $275 a month—a price that would be lower if he didn't smoke. (The ACA allows insurance companies to charge smokers up to 50 percent more for premiums.) Without the subsidy, the same plan would cost $648 a month. King wouldn't say whether he's currently covered, but he was adamant that he would never utilize Obamacare, no matter what.

But King isn't compelled to use Obamacare. Because the cost of his subsidized premium would be more than 8 percent of his income, he should qualify for a hardship exemption. Obamacare doesn't require him to buy insurance or force him to pay a penalty if he decides to forgo it. So as with Levy, it's not clear what real harm he is seeking to remedy.

I asked King what he got out of the case. He replied that the only benefit he would receive from the case was the satisfaction of smashing Obamacare, which he believes bilks hardworking taxpayers to support welfare recipients. He said he doesn't care if millions of Americans lose their health coverage, because "they're probably not paying for it anyway."



employed white southerners most likely to lose coverage if King vs Buwell decided for King
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:22:47

Jeb Bush doxxed a bunch of people. LOL
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:25:45

Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) allows as to how the Keystone pipeline being not likely to create many or any long-term jobs is a good thing.

He's up for re-election this year. Wisconsinites, do your duty.
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby Bucky » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:28:14

link?

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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:37:34

On either side, the merits of the pipeline are completely irrelevant to how much attention we're paying to it. The issue is almost entirely symbolic at this point. In fact, I recall reading somewhere that even if the legislation passes, the pipeline won't get built until oil prices increase substantially.

It's an odd hill to die on, that's for sure. Rather, at this point, it would make a fantastic bargaining chip--Obama should say something like give me something that discourages the use of coal, and I'll go ahead and sign the keystone thing.
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:38:39

Dems gonna have a Brotherly Love-fest for their '16 convention
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:39:21

Bucky wrote:link?


no, pipeline
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:39:31

Democratic 2016 convention will be in Philly
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:40:05

drsmooth wrote:Dems gonna have a Brotherly Love-fest for their '16 convention


Damn son you beat me to it
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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby Bucky » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:41:50

hey guys the DNC just called me and want to book me to do stand up at the PA convention center in 2016. I wonder if that means they're having their convention here?

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Re: Repealing and Vetoing Our Way Forward (Politics Thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:57:57

Oh god no

Maybe they view Wolf as someone they want to highlight
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