Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby dajafi » Fri Sep 19, 2014 15:42:10

Again, I hesitate to wade in here because my exposure to the substance has been really limited. But my sense is that this was a "close vote" for a lot of individual Scots, with voters finding both arguments compelling in different ways.

If that's the case, then this could be the best possible outcome, presuming the late-in-the-day promises are kept. Though I also suspect that the Welsh and Northern Irish would want some or all of the same new considerations and privileges.

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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Sep 19, 2014 15:50:04

pacino wrote:Sean Hannity was talking about how his father used a switch on him, punched him in the face, beat him all the time

Well, /that/ explains a lot.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Slowhand » Fri Sep 19, 2014 15:52:40

I'd beat my kid too if he were Sean Hannity
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Youseff » Fri Sep 19, 2014 19:01:24

I would have drowned him in a bog.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 19, 2014 19:16:16

You know who loses in Scotland? The kids. They could've had a break in history class. "History of the country of Scotland" would have been a breeze.

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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:59:53

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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:03:33

Can't be real--not enough spelling and grammatical mistakes. Sounds too much like an American anyway.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Sat Sep 20, 2014 18:05:39

Les Kinsolving was a White House reporter. Larry Speakes was Reagan's press secretary in 1982:

Les Kinsolving: Larry, does the president have any reaction to the announcement—the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases?
Larry Speakes: What’s AIDS?
Kinsolving: Over a third of [the victims] have died. It’s known as “gay plague.” (laughter) No, it is. I mean it’s a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the president is aware of it?
Speakes: I don’t have it. Do you? (laughter)
Kinsolving: No, I don’t.
Speakes: You didn’t answer my question.
Kinsolving: Well, I just wondered, does the president—
Speakes: How do you know? (laughter)
Kinsolving: In other words, the White House looks on this as a great joke?
Speakes: No, I don’t know anything about it, Lester.
Kinsolving: Does the president, does anybody in the White House know about this epidemic, Larry?
Speakes: I don’t think so. I don’t think there’s been any—
Kinsolving: Nobody knows?
Speakes: There has been no personal experience here, Lester.
Kinsolving: No, I mean, I thought you were keeping—
Speakes: I checked thoroughly with [Reagan’s personal physician] Dr. Ruge this morning, and he’s had no—(laughter)—no patients suffering from AIDS or whatever it is.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Sat Sep 20, 2014 18:06:56

oh, by the way 191xx peeps, my phantasy camp teammate is your new city councilman at-large.

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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby SK790 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 20:40:13

Since 1999, per capita GDP has soared, middle class income has been stagnant. There continues to be no problem with this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/upsho ... times&_r=0
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Sep 20, 2014 22:02:54

SK790 wrote:Since 1999, per capita GDP has soared, middle class income has been stagnant. There continues to be no problem with this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/upsho ... times&_r=0



Atlas shrugged may be apt, but not in the way Ayn Rand intended. Atlas of course is the ordinary man or woman who works for a living.

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Really, I'm convinced only a revitalization of a labor movement can end this madness. But since that's not going to happen, we're screwed.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby SK790 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 22:07:44

Just you wait, TV, it's gonna trickle down on us so hard.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Sat Sep 20, 2014 22:08:46

Ive been told workers are lazy and replaceable.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby SK790 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 22:39:01

They are definitely replaceable.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Sep 20, 2014 23:01:19

TenuredVulture wrote:
SK790 wrote:Since 1999, per capita GDP has soared, middle class income has been stagnant. There continues to be no problem with this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/upsho ... times&_r=0



Atlas shrugged may be apt, but not in the way Ayn Rand intended. Atlas of course is the ordinary man or woman who works for a living.

STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!

Really, I'm convinced only a revitalization of a labor movement can end this madness. But since that's not going to happen, we're screwed.


Interesting this would coincide with a well-publicized documentary of Theodore Roosevelt on PBS. This guy had just as much thrown at him as Obama (except the black thing) and he still was able to take action to control corporations and address income inequality. And he wasn't even a democrat.
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Sat Sep 20, 2014 23:06:49

SK790 wrote:They are definitely replaceable.

The ones that are replaceable are the ones that have seen wage degradation.

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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Sat Sep 20, 2014 23:41:29

That's one way to put it, I guess
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Sat Sep 20, 2014 23:45:20

TenuredVulture wrote:The thing is, the Scots very well may have gotten exactly what they wanted--further devolution that will stop short of full independence. If I'm not mistaken, the Scots themselves proposed that as an option on the ballot, and Cameron refused, believing the conventional wisdom that such an option would be the most likely winner. Cameron insisted on a simple yes/no vote. The Scots called his bluff. In the closing weeks of the election, when Yes seemed poised to to win a surprising victory, Cameron essentially caved with "The Vow". Many people have suggested that uncertainty about the currency and other issues drove people into the no camp at the very end, but I suspect The Vow had a lot to do with how things worked out.

And here's the thing--if the Vow does in fact unravel or disappoint, and the SNP types figure out the currency issues and perhaps even work out some details regarding a Scottish constitution, and if Tories continue to hold Parliament, it's not too tough to see an independence vote going the other way.


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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby SK790 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 23:45:27

that is accurate, werthless. and more are becoming replaceable each day!
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Re: Midterms, Middle East & Middle America - Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Sat Sep 20, 2014 23:53:52

Warszawa wrote:
Interesting this would coincide with a well-publicized documentary of Theodore Roosevelt on PBS. This guy had just as much thrown at him as Obama (except the black thing) and he still was able to take action to control corporations and address income inequality. And he wasn't even a democrat.


Their circumstances could hardly have been more different. They may as well have occupied different planets.
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