Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 27, 2014 06:52:29

Understand, as well, this is not another Cold War that we’re entering into. After all, unlike the Soviet Union, Russia leads no bloc of nations, no global ideology. The United States and NATO do not seek any conflict with Russia. In fact, for more than 60 years, we have come together in NATO -- not to claim other lands, but to keep nations free. What we will do -- always -- is uphold our solemn obligation, our Article 5 duty to defend the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our allies. And in that promise we will never waver; NATO nations never stand alone.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 27, 2014 07:56:52

Dumbass:

ABINGTON - Pennsylvania state prosecutors won a first round Wednesday in their corruption case against state Sen. Leanna Washington, securing a judge's ruling that they have enough evidence for a trial on charges that she ordered taxpayer-paid employees to organize an annual "birthday party" political fundraiser.

For eight years, Washington pressured her Senate staff to devote weeks to drawing up guest lists that included city and state officials, making invitations and taking money from invitees that ultimately went to her campaign account, prosecutors said.

Staffers also allegedly used taxpayer-paid computers, copiers and office supplies.

District Judge John Kessler ruled that testimony from one of Washington's former employees, Jamila Hall, was strong enough to allow the case to go to trial. In a grand jury presentment issued with the charges March 12, prosecutors listed seven current or former employees or interns, including Hall, who said they witnessed or carried out tasks to organize the fundraisers.

Washington, 68, declined comment after the two-hour hearing at Kessler's Montgomery County office. Washington, a Democrat who represents parts of Philadelphia and Montgomery County, is running for a third full term this year.


how tough is it for a veteran politican to have two set of staff and a campaign office where your campaign work is done? i don't know if it's laziness or arrogance
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 27, 2014 08:40:03

ronan farrow is really bad at tv. not sure why he's on a television screen. then again, they have al sharpton on there, so farrow will never be the worst person at reading a teleprompter.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Mar 27, 2014 08:51:29

I'm unimpressed until we learn she was also brokering arms deals.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby td11 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 08:56:31

just opened the thread to post the prez's speech from yesterday. he knocked it out with that one.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Mar 27, 2014 09:46:09

jerseyhoya wrote:Obama's speech in Belgium today was pretty fantastic



you just keep sticking to the message...


wait what

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Mar 27, 2014 09:49:08

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Obama's speech in Belgium today was pretty fantastic



you just keep sticking to the message...


wait what


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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:08:20

Phan In Phlorida wrote:My mom was raised by a single parent. Well, technically a widow since her dad died in the coal mines 2 months before she was born. They lived in what was called a "company house", essentially a 2 room shack with no indoor plumbing or furnace. Her only toys were what her uncle brought home from "work"... he was what was known as a "rag man", after being injured in the mines, he earned money by going around the neighboorhood collecting old clothes to sell as rags, junk to fix and sell, etc. Back then (1940s-50s), there were no welfare or assistance programs, so she dropped out of school after 8th grade to get a job with her mom doing "piece work" in the clothes factory at 1 cent per.

I guess I don't really have a point as she does have fond childhood memories, like the chickens they raised for food, etc.



Sounds like The Hunger Games.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:02:50

Jerz just jizzed his jeans
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 27, 2014 14:46:49

Phan In Phlorida wrote:Jerz just jizzed his jeans

This is still just the internal review. The US Attorney or the legislative committee investigating things can still do bad things to the governor or people on staff. It does seem that this was pretty exhaustive on the government/governor's office, paper trail side of things, so unless one of Kelly/Wildstein/whomever has some document squirreled away somewhere there won't be any tangible evidence tying the governor or anyone else on staff to the closing. Doesn't mean Kelly or Wildstein or whomever can't tell a damaging story, but makes it less likely and might lessen the credibility of any tale as well.

A couple of interesting things from the summaries I've read and the press conference with the lawyer which I watched earlier are 1) they're tabbing Wildstein as the lead figure, not Kelly, 2) they're not sure about the motive, but they don't think the endorsement thing makes sense because they found evidence that the Christie campaign was aware back in March 2013 that Sokolich would not be endorsing the gov.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 27, 2014 14:58:03

UN General Assembly voted 100-11 with 58 abstentions calling the referendum in Crimea illegitimate. I love a good UN General Assembly issue dealing with a crappy country doing crappy things so you can see the who's who of crappy countries line up together - Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Venezuela, Cuba, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Russia, Syria, and Sudan. Hey Russia, your friends (with one or two exceptions) are really awful.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Mar 27, 2014 15:02:49

jerseyhoya wrote:UN General Assembly voted 100-11 with 58 abstentions calling the referendum in Crimea illegitimate. I love a good UN General Assembly issue dealing with a crappy country doing crappy things so you can see the who's who of crappy countries line up together - Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Venezuela, Cuba, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Russia, Syria, and Sudan. Hey Russia, your friends (with one or two exceptions) are really awful.



Couldn't even get Iran or Kazakhstan or any of the other stans. And I guess if we invade Cuba, Venezuela, or Nicaragua again they won't mind.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 27, 2014 19:19:09

jerseyhoya wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
A Brief History of Obamacare Delays - IT'S. THE. LAW.

I'm chary of bruising any delicate sensibilities unintentionally, but you do understand a foundational aspect of the law is to get people covered, and that imposing penalties is not one of the fundamental goals of the statute?

what's with reactionaries forever imagining that laws are mostly about penalties, and punishment?

When Republicans were looking to get a year's delay in the individual mandate as a part of the budget deal, the response was NO! IT'S THE LAW!

But it's no big deal for the administration to be like *shrugs shoulders* on whatever part they don't feel like enforcing. Because...


it's the law they (Reps) contributed nothing but obstruction to - maybe come up with a better budget bargaining offer
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 27, 2014 19:20:58

6 million signed up through the exchanges, 12+ million have insurance since it started
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 27, 2014 19:26:00

the Belgium speech is good stuff, but I kinda liked Barry's remarks from a day or so earlier where he was backhanding Poots as a 'regional' tinhorn despot with a 3-inch dick

almost like he was saying 'yeah, keep pushing comrade, I'll cut you like I did that bearded goof with the turban"
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Mar 27, 2014 19:52:24

40-80k Russian troops on Ukranian border.

They gon invade.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Thu Mar 27, 2014 21:14:34

This is going to be a slaughter. God help us.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Mar 27, 2014 21:28:30

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
A Brief History of Obamacare Delays - IT'S. THE. LAW.

I'm chary of bruising any delicate sensibilities unintentionally, but you do understand a foundational aspect of the law is to get people covered, and that imposing penalties is not one of the fundamental goals of the statute?

what's with reactionaries forever imagining that laws are mostly about penalties, and punishment?

When Republicans were looking to get a year's delay in the individual mandate as a part of the budget deal, the response was NO! IT'S THE LAW!

But it's no big deal for the administration to be like *shrugs shoulders* on whatever part they don't feel like enforcing. Because...

it's the law they (Reps) contributed nothing but obstruction to - maybe come up with a better budget bargaining offer

Am looking forward to your support of the next Republican president unilaterally dismembering Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't do anything but obstruct attempts to do so legislatively.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 27, 2014 22:02:02

jerseyhoya wrote:Am looking forward to your support of the next Republican president unilaterally dismembering Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't do anything but obstruct attempts to do so legislatively.


while that would make "sense" in the bizarro world of, say, Louie Gohmert policymaking, even clods like Ryan wouldn't dream of taking health coverage away from people who have it, even if "it" is not particularly well-fashioned.

You really need to reflect on the content of your snide remark attempts before posting - entries of this caliber might cause people to reconsider their HoF vote
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