POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:38:26

Got Koch?

yup

Much of the money that flowed through the network in the last election cycle originated with two nonprofit groups that served as de facto banks, feeding money to groups downstream, according to an analysis by Center for Responsive Politics researcher Robert Ma­guire, who investigates politically active nonprofits.

The biggest was the Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, an Arlington County-based group set up in November 2011 that now functions as the major funding arm of the network, according to people familiar with the operation. The organization, whose board includes current and former Koch Industries officials, brought in nearly $256 million in its first year, “significantly more revenue than was expected,” according to its tax filing.

Nearly $150 million was in the form of dues paid by more than 200 members of the organization, which is structured as a business league. An additional $105.8 million came from something called “SA Fund.”

James Davis, a spokesman for Freedom Partners, said the organization funds groups “based on whether or not they advance the common business interests of our members in promoting economic opportunity and free-market principles.”


Freedom Partners and TC4 Trust moved a large share of their funds through an intermediary group, the Phoenix-based Center to Protect Patient Rights, which served as a major cash turnstile for groups on the right during the past two election cycles. It is run by political operative Sean Noble, who served as a Koch consultant in 2012.

Rather than finance CPPR directly, Freedom Partners and TC4 Trust transferred $129 million to limited-liability companies with changing names that are registered in Delaware, a state that requires corporations to disclose little about their operations: Eleventh Edition (which was renamed Corner Table and then Cactus Wren) and American Commitment (which was SDN, then became Meridian Edition).

Their relationship to CPPR was unknown until May, when the Arizona group acknowledged in amended tax filings that the LLCs were its affiliates.

Such LLCs are known as “disregarded entities,” which means that, for IRS purposes, they do not exist. Their revenue is reported on the balance sheets of their parent organizations.

Tax experts said disregarded entities are typically used by nonprofits to, for example, hold a piece of real estate to shield an organization from liability.

But they also can be used to make it harder to trace the movement of funds between groups. In its final tax return, TC4 reported doling out nearly $28 million to 10 organizations with names such as POFN LLC, PRDIST LLC and TRGN LLC. Those are the affiliates of the groups Public Notice, Americans for Prosperity and Generation Opportunity, in that order.

The Post and the Center for Responsive Politics identified the groups that make up the Koch-backed network through an analysis of tax filings, which revealed their shared DNA. Most have affiliated LLCs and received a substantial share of their revenue from the feeder funds.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Werthless » Mon Jan 06, 2014 14:03:32

I'm dense... was there something illegal or surprising in this?

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Jan 06, 2014 14:06:18

slow news day--big story on Huff Post was Liz Cheney who never had a chance anyway is dropping out of the Rep Primary for the Wyoming Senate.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 06, 2014 14:51:36

Werthless wrote:I'm dense... was there something illegal or surprising in this?

sorry for posting something, i guess
lots of people don't know their reach.

i would also argue that yes, a lot of that should be illegal, or at least taxed
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jan 06, 2014 15:09:30

Jim Gerlach will not seek reelection. That could be a very interesting race. My home district too!

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 06, 2014 15:10:21

used to be mine before the 2010 redistricting, still may parents'

he wanted to be governor, so since that didn't work out he's just going to take a couple no-show board jobs somewhere, i guess. must be sweet to be a former congressman, since most of them seem to do it
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby The Dude » Mon Jan 06, 2014 22:27:02

td11 wrote:jesus fucking christ

@NBCNews: Kim Jong Un's executed uncle was eaten alive by 120 hungry dogs: report nbcnews.to/1dfSeWh


turns out it wasn't true
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Polar Bear Phan » Mon Jan 06, 2014 23:20:11

The Dude wrote:
td11 wrote:jesus fucking christ

@NBCNews: Kim Jong Un's executed uncle was eaten alive by 120 hungry dogs: report nbcnews.to/1dfSeWh


turns out it wasn't true


Yeah, he was fed to hungry North Koreans.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby SK790 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 23:59:25

My relatives at home tell me that Ed Pawlowski, mayor of Allentown, is running for Gov. Any truth to this? My friend and I basically ran his primary campaign when he was first elected. He was supposed to finish 3rd in the primary, but pulled out a surprise victory. Allentown pretty much votes Dem no matter what, so he won the general election more comfortably.

Think he would be a good candidate for PA. Not my favorite guy politically, but he was always really down to earth.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 07, 2014 07:47:44

he's running. he has no money, though, and that's all that matters. :\

i'd prefer him to Alyson Schwartz
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 07, 2014 09:00:06

Rumbles about Obama stumping about falling deficits truthiness is interesting. I need to dig deeper, but I think the crux of things are that the deficit is massive and good reductions are not moving the needle in terms of velocity (i.e., -500 against 1M, VS -200 against 100K where the subtracting number is the focus, not the %). I started to dig deeper and found information claiming the under Bush 2 the deficit was reduced "faster". My faulty memory seems to think that the deficit expanded then... I need to find an impartial source to see number and see if this is more about political hair splitting (on all sides).

Thoughts? (because I need to get back to work and your opinions are generally more concise then folks who get paid my the pound for their writing)
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 07, 2014 09:07:53

well, the US deficit for 2002 was $159 billion, and he left office with a $240 billion dollar deficit in his 2008 budget and a projected $400 billion deficit for 2009...but left the office with a ticking time bomb on the resolute desk and we know that after TARP and the economy collapsing that it rose under Obama's first year. Plus, Obama passed the stimulus in March 2009, which temporarily ballooned the deficit.

so one can make of that what they will
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 07, 2014 09:33:04

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:30:05

Didn't know where else to post this .... but it's fabulous.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:41:58

that was something. rodman's love for this mass murderer is getting a bit much.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:50:55

Only thing missing was Rodman ripping his shirt like Hulk Hogan. You can just tell in that clip that the rest of those idiots are wondering what the hell they got themselves into.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Werthless » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:03:03

thephan wrote:Rumbles about Obama stumping about falling deficits truthiness is interesting. I need to dig deeper, but I think the crux of things are that the deficit is massive and good reductions are not moving the needle in terms of velocity (i.e., -500 against 1M, VS -200 against 100K where the subtracting number is the focus, not the %). I started to dig deeper and found information claiming the under Bush 2 the deficit was reduced "faster". My faulty memory seems to think that the deficit expanded then... I need to find an impartial source to see number and see if this is more about political hair splitting (on all sides).

Thoughts? (because I need to get back to work and your opinions are generally more concise then folks who get paid my the pound for their writing)

Bush II ran deficits that were unprecedented, and met great opposition by Democratic Senators like Obama. Part of the special blame to Bush is the fact that he made expensive decisions (War, Part D, etc) but then also cut taxes. However, once in office, Obama has not done anything to change the trajectory. Taxes have reverted, there have been stimulus bills, and lately the sequestration has constrained spending. In my opinion, Bush and Obama each deserve blame for kicking the can.

Comparing sizes, deficits have been higher under Obama, but that doesn't mean that he is at fault more than Bush.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Werthless » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:11:14

France, where taking hostages is a union negotiating tactic:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/news/goodyear-france/index.html?iid=HP_LN

Seizing executives is a familiar tactic in France. "Boss-napping" rose to prominence in 2009 when workers took managers at 3M (MMM), Sony (SNE) and Caterpillar (CAT) hostage over pay and labor disputes.

Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company (GT) described the action as "particularly inappropriate and counter-productive."

Saddled with high debt and facing a changing automotive industry, the company has battled with unions and workers over its loss-making French plant for many years.

The U.S. tire giant said a year ago that the plant, which employs around 1,100 workers, would be closed. So far no date has been set for the shutdown.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:16:48

CalvinBall wrote:that was something. rodman's love for this mass murderer is getting a bit much.

rodman loves the attention.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby td11 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:25:39

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine ... n-20131212

To understand Kentucky's conflicted relationship with the federal government, 50 years after hosting President Johnson's launch of the "War on Poverty," is to meet Terry Rupe. The 63-year-old widower can't remember the last time he voted for a Democrat, and he's got nothing nice to say about President Obama. He's also never had health insurance, although he started working at age 9. Since his wife's death four years ago, he's been taking care of their 40-year-old, severely disabled daughter full time. She gets Medicaid and Medicare assistance.



"I don't have any use for the federal government," Rupe said, even though his household's $13,000 yearly income comes exclusively from Washington. "It's a bunch of liars, crooks, and thieves, and they've never done anything for me. I'm not ungrateful, but I don't have much faith in this health care law. Do I think it's going to work? No. Do I think it's going to bankrupt the country? Yes."

Rupe sounds like he could be standing on a soapbox at a tea-party rally, but he happens to be sitting in a back room at the Family Health Centers' largest clinic in Louisville—signing up for Medicaid. Rupe, who is white, insists that illegal immigrants from Mexico and Africa get more government assistance than he does. (Illegal immigrants do not, in fact, qualify for Medicaid or coverage under the Affordable Care Act.)

He's not alone in thinking this way. A majority of whites believe the health care law will make things worse for them and their families, according to a United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll.

"President Obama's idea is taking from the working people to give to the people who won't take care of themselves. It's redistribution of wealth," Rupe said. "I've always taken care of myself. You got these young girls who go out and get pregnant and then they get $1,500 a month for having a kid, so they have two."

On the other side of town, Adele Anderson was signing up for Medicaid at a public library. The white, middle-aged woman makes $10 an hour as a child-care provider; she also gets $86 a month in food stamps. She was unaware that Republicans voted to cut $40 billion over 10 years from what's called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. "Democrats are too liberal," Anderson said. "They just want to give handouts."

The disdain she and Rupe show toward living on the government dole at the very moment they are doing just that is typical in a state that distrusts Washington as much as it needs federal help.

...

But even deeper than Kentucky's aversion to Obama is its desperation for health care. Nearly one of six Kentuckians is uninsured. The state rates first or near the top nationally in statistics on smoking, cancer deaths, obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. In contrast to the slow and tumultuous rollout of the federal website under the new health care law, enrollment in the state-run exchange and Medicaid is surging in the Bluegrass State.

Just don't call it Obamacare. In Kentucky, a marketing campaign has cleverly branded it "kynect."

"It really is strategic," said Barbara Gordon, director of the state's division of social services, which is helping to oversee enrollment. "We've had events where people say, 'This sounds a whole lot better than that Obamacare!' We train our people not to use that word, and it's effective in breaking down that wall against President Obama."
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