All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:10:12

That guy needs to retire so badly

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:10:33

its not the same at all, the brother and sister can procreate.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby MoBettle » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:38:20

CalvinBall wrote:its not the same at all, the brother and sister can procreate.


with a much higher tendency of birth defects


and most incestual relationships are generally the harbinger of some other really fucked up shit happening to the couple prior.

and I've never seen any study showing people are naturally attracted to specifically their own siblings over others the way gays are attracted to their own sex. (Could be wrong about that: really the first 2 should be enough anyway)
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:49:18

it was just a joke

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:58:01

we're debating whether or not to pay our debts, we may as well debate the merits of brother/sister hookups



it's amazing to have such an out bigot leading our state in 2013.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby MoBettle » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:59:08

CalvinBall wrote:it was just a joke


oh yeah i know, didn't mean to make it seem otherwise
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:09:06

What about when two brothers marry, huh?
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:28:49

pacino wrote:we're debating whether or not to pay our debts, we may as well debate the merits of brother/sister hookups



it's amazing to have such an out bigot leading our state in 2013.


It will also be amazing when he becomes the first Pennsylvania governor not to win a second term since the institution of two-term governorships in the commonwealth. Corbett seems hellbent on his own demise.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:39:47

MoBettle wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:its not the same at all, the brother and sister can procreate.


with a much higher tendency of birth defects


and most incestual relationships are generally the harbinger of some other really fucked up shit happening to the couple prior.

and I've never seen any study showing people are naturally attracted to specifically their own siblings over others the way gays are attracted to their own sex. (Could be wrong about that: really the first 2 should be enough anyway)


you obviously don't watch enough Game of Thrones
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:40:48

there's something to be said for pure bloodlines

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Roger Dorn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:03:20

Houshphandzadeh wrote:there's something to be said for pure bloodlines


Hemophilia?

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby traderdave » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:18:22

JFLNYC wrote:What about when two brothers marry, huh?


THAT'S RACIST!!!

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Oct 04, 2013 13:46:11

Rand Paul wrote:I'm for taking default completely off the table. I'm promising to the American people and to the markets to Wall Street that we will always pay the interest on the debt as a priority. Do you know how we do that? We bring in $250 billion in tax revenue every month. The debt payment is about 30 billion. We just promise we will always pay it. What's going on is interestingly the Democrats are scaring people and saying, we might not pay it because Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling. If you don't raise the debt ceiling, what that means is you have a balanced budget. It doesn't mean you wouldn't pay your bills. We should pay the interest and we should never scare the markets. So, if I were in-charge, I would say, absolutely, we will never default. I would pass a law saying that the first revenue every month, the first revenue, has to go to pay interest.

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those democRAT liars!
pay foreign investors over all. genius! like we could even pay certain debts first and not others.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Werthless » Fri Oct 04, 2013 16:34:10

pacino wrote:
Rand Paul wrote:I'm for taking default completely off the table. I'm promising to the American people and to the markets to Wall Street that we will always pay the interest on the debt as a priority. Do you know how we do that? We bring in $250 billion in tax revenue every month. The debt payment is about 30 billion. We just promise we will always pay it. What's going on is interestingly the Democrats are scaring people and saying, we might not pay it because Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling. If you don't raise the debt ceiling, what that means is you have a balanced budget. It doesn't mean you wouldn't pay your bills. We should pay the interest and we should never scare the markets. So, if I were in-charge, I would say, absolutely, we will never default. I would pass a law saying that the first revenue every month, the first revenue, has to go to pay interest.

:ce:
those democRAT liars!
pay foreign investors over all. genius! like we could even pay certain debts first and not others.

Do you disagree with what he said? What he said is utterly reasonable, and allows us to borrow money at ~2%.

This chart also might be helpful before you assert that defaulting on a debt payment would hurt foreign investors instead of US pension funds:

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Oct 04, 2013 17:09:09

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Speaking of burning...

Some dude set on fire at DC mall. No word yet if he set himself on fire (protest or insane or both) or if someone else did and our society is spiraling towards a Mad Max Thunderdome civilization (thanks Obama).
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby traderdave » Fri Oct 04, 2013 17:15:17

pacino wrote:
Rand Paul wrote:I'm for taking default completely off the table. I'm promising to the American people and to the markets to Wall Street that we will always pay the interest on the debt as a priority. Do you know how we do that? We bring in $250 billion in tax revenue every month. The debt payment is about 30 billion. We just promise we will always pay it. What's going on is interestingly the Democrats are scaring people and saying, we might not pay it because Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling. If you don't raise the debt ceiling, what that means is you have a balanced budget. It doesn't mean you wouldn't pay your bills. We should pay the interest and we should never scare the markets. So, if I were in-charge, I would say, absolutely, we will never default. I would pass a law saying that the first revenue every month, the first revenue, has to go to pay interest.

:ce:
those democRAT liars!
pay foreign investors over all. genius! like we could even pay certain debts first and not others.


Yeah, I am not sure the legality of passing a law that would suddenly make certain debt subordinate to other debt; at least not without compensating the holders of the now subordinate debt for changing the characteristics of their investment mid-stream.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Bucky » Fri Oct 04, 2013 17:28:58

Werthless wrote:This chart also might be helpful before you assert that defaulting on a debt payment would hurt foreign investors instead of US pension funds:

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I'd like to see the trending of those percentages in addition to a point in time. Would be much more helpful in deciding which way to go with this.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Oct 04, 2013 18:06:58

Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:
Rand Paul wrote:I'm for taking default completely off the table. I'm promising to the American people and to the markets to Wall Street that we will always pay the interest on the debt as a priority. Do you know how we do that? We bring in $250 billion in tax revenue every month. The debt payment is about 30 billion. We just promise we will always pay it. What's going on is interestingly the Democrats are scaring people and saying, we might not pay it because Republicans don't want to raise the debt ceiling. If you don't raise the debt ceiling, what that means is you have a balanced budget. It doesn't mean you wouldn't pay your bills. We should pay the interest and we should never scare the markets. So, if I were in-charge, I would say, absolutely, we will never default. I would pass a law saying that the first revenue every month, the first revenue, has to go to pay interest.

:ce:
those democRAT liars!
pay foreign investors over all. genius! like we could even pay certain debts first and not others.

Do you disagree with what he said? What he said is utterly reasonable, and allows us to borrow money at ~2%.

This chart also might be helpful before you assert that defaulting on a debt payment would hurt foreign investors instead of US pension funds:

Image

we do not have a balanced budget. he is mixing deficit and debt.

im not sure what point is being made other than he is saying that his say-so is good enough for people who hold the debt of the US. uhm, sure. if anything, your chart shows how little the debt matters.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Oct 04, 2013 18:35:46

He's not mixing anything up. You're misreading what he is saying. If the debt ceiling is hit, it doesn't mean we automatically default on our obligations. It just means we can't borrow any more money. The federal government would continue bringing in revenue, and he's suggesting there should be a law that requires the repayment of interest on the debt to be prioritized over all other spending. Until the debt ceiling was raised, the federal government would be forced to run a balanced budget because it wouldn't have the statutory authority to borrow money.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Oct 04, 2013 19:23:15

Defaulting on payments to defense contractors, soldiers, employees, vendors, etc., would be OK by him, I guess.
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