pacino wrote:he voted for the cloture measure he was fake filibustering against. i mean, i dont even

also, he took up discussion time. it wasnt a filibuster.

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:he voted for the cloture measure he was fake filibustering against. i mean, i dont even

also, he took up discussion time. it wasnt a filibuster.

Here you go

Werthless wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:he voted for the cloture measure he was fake filibustering against. i mean, i dont even

also, he took up discussion time. it wasnt a filibuster.

Here you go

I haven't been following this, but then again, Senate procedural maneuverings are not very interesting to me. But the 3 articles I've read suggest that this is Reid vs. Cruz. Cruz is trying to get the Senate to vote on this bill on Friday, and tried to draw attention to this cause by speaking for 21 hours. Reid refuses to move up this vote to Friday. I'm not sure what Reid's goal is, however, and how a later vote advantages him. Perhaps it gives the House less time to reconsider the Senate re-writes?

Werthless wrote:Swimming in the Washington Examiner links, I found this:

The biased media! Why, I never...

But there was a broader critique too. Like everyone else in the country, Cruz hasn't had a chance to try out health care under the new law. The state-based exchanges that will be used to buy insurance open next Tuesday.

"I don't know if he read it," Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., charged on Wednesday during a press conference after Cruz had finally left the floor. "Because 'Green Eggs and Ham' has a moral: don't criticize something, don't reject something, until you actually try it."

“I went to the University of Missouri, I did not go to Harvard," Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said Wednesday on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. "But I’ll tell you that my daughter texted me this morning and said ‘Mom, does he not know the point of the story?’”

Asked about why he chose to read "Green Eggs and Ham," Cruz on Wednesday said there was no larger ideological point to reading the story.

“It just was my favorite story as a kid," he said as he was climbing into his car and leaving the Capitol. "And my girls like it.”

But scholars of Dr. Seuss – full name Theodor Seuss Geisel – also found Cruz’s choice confusing, noting that ideas of compromise and mutual understanding run throughout Dr. Seuss’s body of work, especially “Green Eggs and Ham.”

“The moral message of ‘Green Eggs and Ham’ – to the extent that it has one – is completely at odds with what Cruz was trying to achieve,” says Seuss biographer Phil Nel, a professor at Kansas State University.

And Seuss didn’t hesitate to speak up when he thought his message had been misappropriated. In the 1980s, he threatened to sue an anti-abortion group that used the line – “A person’s a person, no matter how small” – from the pro-tolerance book “Horton Hears a Who.”

One Year Debt Limit Increase

Not a dollar amount increase, but suspending the debt limit until the end of December 2014.

Similar to what we did earlier this year.

Want the year long to align with the year delay of Obamacare.

One Year Obamacare delay

Tax Reform Instructions

Similar to a bill we passed last fall, laying out broad from Ryan Budget principles for what tax reform should look like.

Gives fast track authority for tax reform legislation

Energy and regulatory reforms to promote economic growth

Includes pretty much every jobs bill we have passed this year and last Congress

All of these policies have important positive economic effects.

Energy provisions

Keystone Pipeline

Coal Ash regulations

Offshore drilling

Energy production on federal lands

EPA Carbon regulations

Regulatory reform

REINS Act

Regulatory process reform

Consent decree reform

Blocking Net Neutrality

Mandatory Spending Reforms

Mostly from the sequester replacement bills we passed last year

Federal Employee retirement reform

Ending the Dodd Frank bailout fund

Transitioning CFPB funding to Appropriations

Child Tax Credit Reform to prevent fraud

Repealing the Social Services Block grant

Health Spending Reforms

Means testing Medicare

Repealing a Medicaid Provider tax gimmick

Tort reform

Altering Disproportion Share Hospitals

Repealing the Public Health trust Fund

pacino wrote:in return for keeping the government going and agreeing that we will indeed pay our debts, eventually, House Republicans want:

One Year Debt Limit Increase

Not a dollar amount increase, but suspending the debt limit until the end of December 2014.

Similar to what we did earlier this year.

Want the year long to align with the year delay of Obamacare.

One Year Obamacare delay

Tax Reform Instructions

Similar to a bill we passed last fall, laying out broad from Ryan Budget principles for what tax reform should look like.

Gives fast track authority for tax reform legislation

Energy and regulatory reforms to promote economic growth

Includes pretty much every jobs bill we have passed this year and last Congress

All of these policies have important positive economic effects.

Energy provisions

Keystone Pipeline

Coal Ash regulations

Offshore drilling

Energy production on federal lands

EPA Carbon regulations

Regulatory reform

REINS Act

Regulatory process reform

Consent decree reform

Blocking Net Neutrality

Mandatory Spending Reforms

Mostly from the sequester replacement bills we passed last year

Federal Employee retirement reform

Ending the Dodd Frank bailout fund

Transitioning CFPB funding to Appropriations

Child Tax Credit Reform to prevent fraud

Repealing the Social Services Block grant

Health Spending Reforms

Means testing Medicare

Repealing a Medicaid Provider tax gimmick

Tort reform

Altering Disproportion Share Hospitals

Repealing the Public Health trust Fund

karn wrote:I've had it on for about a half hour and he's explained the long term effects of Obamacare on young people as clearly as anybody I've seen try to so far

traderdave wrote:

pacino wrote:in return for keeping the government going and agreeing that we will indeed pay our debts, eventually, House Republicans want:

One Year Debt Limit Increase

Not a dollar amount increase, but suspending the debt limit until the end of December 2014.

Similar to what we did earlier this year.

Want the year long to align with the year delay of Obamacare.

One Year Obamacare delay

Tax Reform Instructions

Similar to a bill we passed last fall, laying out broad from Ryan Budget principles for what tax reform should look like.

Gives fast track authority for tax reform legislation

Energy and regulatory reforms to promote economic growth

Includes pretty much every jobs bill we have passed this year and last Congress

All of these policies have important positive economic effects.

Energy provisions

Keystone Pipeline

Coal Ash regulations

Offshore drilling

Energy production on federal lands

EPA Carbon regulations

Regulatory reform

REINS Act

Regulatory process reform

Consent decree reform

Blocking Net Neutrality

Mandatory Spending Reforms

Mostly from the sequester replacement bills we passed last year

Federal Employee retirement reform

Ending the Dodd Frank bailout fund

Transitioning CFPB funding to Appropriations

Child Tax Credit Reform to prevent fraud

Repealing the Social Services Block grant

Health Spending Reforms

Means testing Medicare

Repealing a Medicaid Provider tax gimmick

Tort reform

Altering Disproportion Share Hospitals

Repealing the Public Health trust Fund

In other words, #$!&@ YOU America!

pacino wrote:oh, well, yeah but still:

But there was a broader critique too. Like everyone else in the country, Cruz hasn't had a chance to try out health care under the new law. The state-based exchanges that will be used to buy insurance open next Tuesday.

"I don't know if he read it," Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., charged on Wednesday during a press conference after Cruz had finally left the floor. "Because 'Green Eggs and Ham' has a moral: don't criticize something, don't reject something, until you actually try it."

“I went to the University of Missouri, I did not go to Harvard," Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said Wednesday on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. "But I’ll tell you that my daughter texted me this morning and said ‘Mom, does he not know the point of the story?’”

Asked about why he chose to read "Green Eggs and Ham," Cruz on Wednesday said there was no larger ideological point to reading the story.

“It just was my favorite story as a kid," he said as he was climbing into his car and leaving the Capitol. "And my girls like it.”

But scholars of Dr. Seuss – full name Theodor Seuss Geisel – also found Cruz’s choice confusing, noting that ideas of compromise and mutual understanding run throughout Dr. Seuss’s body of work, especially “Green Eggs and Ham.”

“The moral message of ‘Green Eggs and Ham’ – to the extent that it has one – is completely at odds with what Cruz was trying to achieve,” says Seuss biographer Phil Nel, a professor at Kansas State University.

And Seuss didn’t hesitate to speak up when he thought his message had been misappropriated. In the 1980s, he threatened to sue an anti-abortion group that used the line – “A person’s a person, no matter how small” – from the pro-tolerance book “Horton Hears a Who.”

phatj wrote:I thought Green Eggs and Ham was about pestering someone until you get what you want

TenuredVulture wrote:I really, really, hope the Republicans nominate Cruz for Pres. He'd struggle to reach 40% of the popular vote.