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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:57:48

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:MSNBC, more partisan than Fox

Not surprising at all

That a half-assed opinion piece ran in the Baltimore Sun?

It's a short blog post about a longer Pew study

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:17:06

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jerseyhoya wrote:Man, without the daily methadone of GALLUP, polls have become very, very depressing.

Think if I was gun to head needing to pick the EC vote right now I'd go 303-235 Obama. On the other hand PPP is still spitting out an even race nationally as they tell us Obama is willing by 5-7% in every swing state, so something funky is going on. WaPo/ABC has it even nationally too. Really hard to see these swing states becoming blowouts - there's nothing in the safe states to explain the discrepancy. And we're still winning in our internals in Ohio. So who the fuck knows. Just give me a few glimmers going into election day, nationally and/or state polling wise.

Personal expectations are way down from a week ago, though I'm not sure how much of that is just me having a shitty week and projecting. Seems like the national polls shifted away a tad, and the state polls stagnated, but that might have something to do with who was polling and who wasn't.

The one legitimate bright spot was Barone sticking his neck out today for Romney (315-223). Landslide relatively speaking. He's a bit of a partisan, but he's smart as shit. The secondary bright spot is GOP campaign professionals really, legitimately think we're gonna win. How much is lying to yourself to make all the effort seem worth it vs. reality is an open question, I guess, but it's not made up.

How do you know what their internals say? In the past you have said friends tell you. If they were actually losing why would they want to tell you that?

Maybe I dreamed it

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:41:27

I'm asking seriously. Not trying to be accusatory.

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby bleh » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:41:42

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:44:20

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:57:25

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:14:33

CalvinBall wrote:Should we have a new thread now and a separate one for election results? Or just new one now that will be used for results too in three days?


Yes.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby dajafi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:15:29

CalvinBall wrote:Christie was romneys first choice for vp per politico. No idea why that was leaked now.


Thought I'd heard this back over the summer--the rumor then was that Romney wanted Christie to resign, and he wouldn't.

Turns out Portman would have been his best VP--help in Ohio and a reinforcement to the "moderate Mitt" idea that got him back into this thing. As opposed to the John Galt of lifetime government employment.

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:16:30

fwiw, paul ryan's people have been discussing his moves "if romney loses"
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:31:11

td11 wrote:fwiw, paul ryan's people have been discussing his moves "if romney loses"


Would he resign his house seat?

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby pacino » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:37:35

THERE IS A PUBLIC OPTION IN 2014!!!! yayyyy
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 13:10:30

CalvinBall wrote:
td11 wrote:fwiw, paul ryan's people have been discussing his moves "if romney loses"


Would he resign his house seat?


Taegan Goddard (@politicalwire) tweeted at 11:30 AM on Sat, Nov 03, 2012:
Key indicator GOP thinks Romney will lose: Ryan's advisers are already talking to press about what he'll do next... http://t.co/91AogqNT
(https://twitter.com/politicalwire/statu ... 8636542976)
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Nov 03, 2012 13:36:04

Crowd at the Romney rally is shouting "Three more days".

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Bucky » Sat Nov 03, 2012 13:36:40

isn't it four

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 13:50:31

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sat Nov 03, 2012 14:03:00

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 14:28:23

Thousands of absentee-ballot requests may have been erroneously rejected statewide because of voter-registration issues, voter advocates say.

Secretary of State Jon Husted has acknowledged that a data-sharing glitch between his office and the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles likely caused some absentee-ballot applications to be wrongfully rejected because county boards did not have up-to-date information on registrants’ addresses.


http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... llots.html
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Sat Nov 03, 2012 14:41:31

jerseyhoya wrote:MSNBC, more partisan than Fox

Not surprising at all


ON MSNBC, the ratio of negative to positive stories on GOP candidate Mitt Romney was 71 to 3.

The ratio of negative to positive stories in Fox's coverage of President Obama was 46 to 6.


Now, I don't watch MSNBC, we don't get it and I likely wouldn't watch it even if we did... but doesn't Mittens himself bear some responsibility? I mean, stuff like calling half the country leeches looking for a handout is going to get negative coverage.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 14:43:53

no rachel maddow and chris hayes are a lot worse than fox and friends or o'reilly or hannity, objectively speaking
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Nov 03, 2012 14:48:09

How does one determine that objectively?
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