All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:22:42

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Romney on Fox tonight, on the 47 percent: "I said something that's just completely wrong." #2012


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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:33:58

td11 wrote:
Speaking with National Journal magazine about Republican Party priorities for the 2008-2010 Congress, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell explained that "the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." [36]


but i'm sure this had no effect on the things obama wanted to do

He spoke a week before the midterm elections about Republican Party priorities for the 2008-2010 Congress? Right.

The transformation of that quote has been amazing.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:43:23

those were his exact words so the quote hasn't been transformed, no. i guess the fact that he said it in oct 2010 and not right after the election in 2008 makes it better in your eyes
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:44:08

So are you saying after 2010, they had different priorities, or that they changed their minds about whether Obama should have a second term or not?
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:46:18

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:And remember how we were talking yesterday about the theory that Romney might've won the debate but still hurt himself through the PBS/Big Bird comment?

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/10/04/big-bird-will-haunt-mitt-romney/[/url]

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:50:49

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Oct 05, 2012 18:36:22

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Sat Oct 06, 2012 03:55:57

Phan In Phlorida wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:And remember how we were talking yesterday about the theory that Romney might've won the debate but still hurt himself through the PBS/Big Bird comment?

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/10/04/big-bird-will-haunt-mitt-romney/[/url]

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:14:59

Romney is leading in Florida, Viginia and in some polls in Ohio now. This was literally the worst case scenario.

Romney probably becomes the favorite sometime next week.
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:26:36

lol

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:26:12

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Romney is leading in Florida, Viginia and in some polls in Ohio now. This was literally the worst case scenario.

Romney probably becomes the favorite sometime next week.


other than ras, links?
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:32:57

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:37:15

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Some amazing news this morning: 1,825,813 people came together to raise $181 million for this campaign in September.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby dajafi » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:44:24

My read is that the debate certainly made things closer, but 1) the jobs report probably blunted half of the Mitt-mentum; 2) the debates to come will intensify or dispel that trend (meaning that Romney basically got himself an opportunity to make major gains, rather than the gains themselves); and 3) Obama still probably has the better ground game. The president might have put it away Wednesday, and clearly did not.

Or you can think of it this way: Obama remains very likely to hold every state won by Kerry in 2004, plus New Mexico, where Silver has him at 97 percent likely to win, plus Ohio where Silver has him as an 85 percent favorite to win. If he has that, I think he can lose Nevada (where Silver still has him at 85 percent), Virginia (76 percent), Colorado (75 percent), Iowa (75 percent) and Florida (66 percent) and win re-election. The electoral college is just tough for Romney now.

The jobs report was huge. That the unemployment rate is now back to where it was when he took office is, as the vice-president might say, a big fucking deal. The Romney people keep trying to compare Obama to Carter in 1980, but the trend on the unemployment rate looks more like Reagan in 1984 (when he also got pummeled by the challenger in the first debate, probably worse than Obama did on Wednesday--people thought Reagan might be going senile).

If Romney beats him badly again in the town hall debate and there's some external bad news for the administration, he might get in position to win. But we're not there yet.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:49:15

The Nightman Cometh wrote: Romney probably becomes the favorite sometime next week.
you serious, clark?

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:56:16

dajafi wrote:If he has that, I think he can lose Nevada (where Silver still has him at 85 percent), Virginia (76 percent), Colorado (75 percent), Iowa (75 percent) and Florida (66 percent) and win re-election. The electoral college is just tough for Romney now.

269-269

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 13:23:28

Scalia calls himself a "textualist" and, as he related to a few hundred people who came to buy his new book and hear him speak in Washington the other day, that means he applies the words in the Constitution as they were understood by the people who wrote and adopted them.

So Scalia parts company with former colleagues who have come to believe capital punishment is unconstitutional. The framers of the Constitution didn't think so and neither does he.

"The death penalty? Give me a break. It's easy. Abortion? Absolutely easy. Nobody ever thought the Constitution prevented restrictions on abortion. Homosexual sodomy? Come on. For 200 years, it was criminal in every state," Scalia said at the American Enterprise Institute.


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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Sat Oct 06, 2012 13:25:15

td, that reminds me: see if you can find an article in the New Republic about liberals learning to use the Constitution as a means of arguing for things they want pushed through. Conservative judges are starting to rule in their favor too. I read the print piece, but i think it was called Constitution Street or something like that
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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 13:25:58

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dajafi wrote:If he has that, I think he can lose Nevada (where Silver still has him at 85 percent), Virginia (76 percent), Colorado (75 percent), Iowa (75 percent) and Florida (66 percent) and win re-election. The electoral college is just tough for Romney now.

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Probably the only chance he has at winning really.

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Re: All things good in MODERATION: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Oct 06, 2012 13:30:10

Really hope Scalia just eats broccoli and carrots for every meal these days

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