The suicide nets outside of Apple's Chinese factories are actually hammocks to relax after a long day at work

My father in law is a mason. He wants me to do it badly. But I can't- my church has a rule for a pastor that a Lutheran pastor cannot become a freemason. Something about swearing an oath to something other than God.

Have fun drinking out of a skull, Woody.

jeff2sf wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

jeff2sf wrote:And again, I agree with you on 80% of the positions for christ's sake. So if you're pissing me off with your self-righteous blather, there's a good chance you're alienating a group of people who aren't as committed to your way of thinking.

It's the internet. We're talking politics on a sports message board. There are around 12 regular posters and possibly as many as 25 more who pop in frequently in these politics threads.

Who in the fuck is he going to alienate?

Jeff alienated me a long time ago. I don't like anyone who thinks like him, so he's making it impossible for me to ever see his view.

See, doesn't it sound stupid?

You know for all the shit you give Romney about having not had to work hard, at least he didn't drop out of his ivy grad school like someone I know.

of course not, he was getting an MBA or something frivolous like that, not spending 7 years of his life locked in a small room with a rack of rodents. Apples and oranges. Also, I'm not a horrible human being, something he can't say.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Where do I fall into this. Id like to be labeled as well.

enabler

Hey, it isn't his job to worry about the other half.

All the "I"s, "B"s, and "FM"s here, we can meet up in the secret underground city on Dec 21 and toast with a bottle of primo Riesling taken from Hitler's private stock. I'll bring the Holy Grail. C U there!

Monkeyboy wrote:

jeff2sf wrote:Of course you'd think it wasn't unreadable until someone challenges you. You're a terribly immature person who's not used to being exposed to those who disagree with you or your methods. Well boo hoo.

Also, I don't believe for one second you are voting for Obama. Your a republican troll that comes here and asks democrats to be reasonable when you know your guy is on the ropes. "Hey guys, I'm voting for Obama, but everything I say will sound otherwise. Just ignore that fact and know that you pointing out Mitt's obvious glaring flaws only makes it more likely that I'll vote for him." Give me a break.

I had a long string of invectives about how stupid you're being here but I'll skip to this:

Romney is unambiguously wrong on foreign policy. There's no chance we'd be safer/saner with him at the helm instead of Obama.

Romney is unambiguously wrong on social policy. In his defense, every single Republican candidate for president would be similarly hamstrung and maybe he would focus more on economy and defense than fighting back against the gays, but I don't know and don't care.

On the economy there are things to like and dislike about both parties. The reason I can't support Romney is the ridiculous lack of compromise about raising revenues while cutting entitlements. Obama seems much more likely to deal than he is. And the only way we fix this is by doing both.

Let's be real, Obama may have been handed a crappy deck of cards from Bush, yet he hasn't covered himself in glory with his decisions. I think it will get better, but our economy does in fact suck and he's had 4 years to try and make it not suck.

But you're right, I'm obviously a Romney supporter.

typical Obama voter, just eating up whatever's put in front of him

jerseyhoya wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:I think this thread is fun. And by fun I mean the worst thread on the board. Vox was right.

It's been better in the past

I'll admit I occasionally get too emotional in here, and so I try not to post when I am feeling that way. I only do it if I really think I am right (neocons are scum, as evidenced by the same people who, ten years ago, rushed to defend Bush and the Iraq War, have rediscovered isolationism since Obama took office). At times, it can be hard to discuss unions in a rational way when I am being presented by the other side not with arguments like, "We need more givebacks because municipalities are hurting" or something like that, but instead with the assertion "You shouldn't exist." I know it's not nearly so serious, but I have a little bit of an idea about how the Israelis feel when they hear that shit from Iran, the PLO, etc. Many conservatives, including some on this board, have now taken the position not that public sector union contracts have to be more management-friendly, but that we shouldn't be allowed to exist at all.

It's very difficult to react rationally to that.

what should we call the new board

Houshphandzadeh wrote:what should we call the new board

The No mozartS Club

I think you missed my criticisms of Obama.

But he is a human being at least. I'm not sure about robot Mitt and his cavalcade of crazy.

Seriously though, how many gaffs can one guy have where he's caught on tape or something sounding like a complete hater of the middle class and poor, acting like most people in those groups want something for nothing?

Hey, did you hear the one about the unemployed auto worker?

He couldn't feed his family. LOLers! That's funny, Mitt!

Monkeyboy wrote:Seriously though, how many gaffs can one guy have where he's caught on tape or something sounding like a complete hater of the middle class and poor, acting like most people in those groups want something for nothing?

Considering the guy took an $80k tax deduction for finishing school for his wife's fancy horse, hid monies in tax havens, etc., it's kind of hilarious as he's become a caricature of the proverbial 1%.

I think the real problem is that we're not in the middle of a Phillies WFC run like the last presidential election.

just wanna point out that jerz disagrees with pretty much everyone here on a lot of issues without ever hurling personal insults

(still missin u lethal)

jersey is a relatively good-mannered racist

td11 wrote:just wanna point out that jerz disagrees with pretty much everyone here on a lot of issues without ever hurling personal insults

(still missin u lethal)

Yes, I'm unique in that I agree with most positions but feel the need to point out how terrible most of you are. And at the end of the day, what's worse, someone who will gladly support a homophobe/100 homophobes or someone who points out how stupid the echo chamber is here?

i think you need to peruse a lot more politics subforums on sports message boards before you shit on ours in here.

but whatever. continue yelling at people. it's making a difference.

and for the record, you're way worse than jerz, if that's what you were asking.