It might as well be Har­ry Pot­ter’s in­visi­ble Knight Bus, be­cause no one can prove it ex­ists.

The bus has been re­peat­ed­ly cited by True the Vote, a na­tion­al group fo­cused on voter fraud. Cath­er­ine En­gel­brecht, the group’s leader, told a gath­er­ing in Ju­ly about bus­es car­ry­ing dozens of vot­ers show­ing up at polling places dur­ing the re­cent Wis­con­sin re­call elec­tion.

“Mag­i­cal­ly, all of them need­ed to reg­is­ter and vote at the same time,” Ms. En­gel­brecht said. “Do you think maybe they reg­is­tered falsely un­der false pre­tenses? Prob­a­bly so.”

Weeks later, an­other True the Vote rep­re­sent­a­tive told a meet­ing of con­serva­tive women about a bus seen at a San Diego polling place in 2010 of­fload­ing peo­ple “who did not ap­pear to be from this coun­try.”

Of­fi­cials in both San Diego and Wis­con­sin said they had no ev­i­dence that the bus­es were re­al. “It’s so stealthy that no one is ever able to get a pic­ture and no one is able to get a li­cense plate,” said Reid Mag­ney, a spokes­man for the Wis­con­sin agency that over­sees elec­tions. In some ver­sions the bus is from an In­dian res­er­va­tion; in oth­ers it is full of vot­ers from Chi­cago or De­troit. “Pick your mi­nor­ity group,” he said.

The bus­es are part of the elec­tion fraud gospel ac­cord­ing to True the Vote, which is mo­bi­liz­ing a small army of vol­un­teers to com­bat what it sees as a force out to sub­vert elec­tions. Ms. En­gel­brecht’s Ju­ly speech in Mon­tana was ti­tled “Voter Fraud: The Plot to Un­der­mine Amer­i­can De­moc­racy.”

JFLNYC wrote:

traderdave wrote:

pacino wrote:i'm literally speechless about what he took away from his dealings with a chinese factory.

Yeah, I was listening to it thinking, "Is he going to get to his point sometime soon?". And then his big point ends up being that we have it great in America? A two-minute story to remind people who paid $50,000 each for lunch how lucky they are to be in America? Thanks, Captain Obvious.

He wasn't reminding them about how lucky they are to be American. He was reminding his fellow rich folks that they have every right to be disdainful of the ungrateful, unwashed 47% who should shut up, get off the dole, pull themselves up by the bootstraps, and not expect any help. Making minorities into scapegoats unfortunately still has political resonance.

JFLNYC wrote:

It might as well be Har­ry Pot­ter’s in­visi­ble Knight Bus, be­cause no one can prove it ex­ists.

The bus has been re­peat­ed­ly cited by True the Vote, a na­tion­al group fo­cused on voter fraud. Cath­er­ine En­gel­brecht, the group’s leader, told a gath­er­ing in Ju­ly about bus­es car­ry­ing dozens of vot­ers show­ing up at polling places dur­ing the re­cent Wis­con­sin re­call elec­tion.

“Mag­i­cal­ly, all of them need­ed to reg­is­ter and vote at the same time,” Ms. En­gel­brecht said. “Do you think maybe they reg­is­tered falsely un­der false pre­tenses? Prob­a­bly so.”

Weeks later, an­other True the Vote rep­re­sent­a­tive told a meet­ing of con­serva­tive women about a bus seen at a San Diego polling place in 2010 of­fload­ing peo­ple “who did not ap­pear to be from this coun­try.”

Of­fi­cials in both San Diego and Wis­con­sin said they had no ev­i­dence that the bus­es were re­al. “It’s so stealthy that no one is ever able to get a pic­ture and no one is able to get a li­cense plate,” said Reid Mag­ney, a spokes­man for the Wis­con­sin agency that over­sees elec­tions. In some ver­sions the bus is from an In­dian res­er­va­tion; in oth­ers it is full of vot­ers from Chi­cago or De­troit. “Pick your mi­nor­ity group,” he said.

The bus­es are part of the elec­tion fraud gospel ac­cord­ing to True the Vote, which is mo­bi­liz­ing a small army of vol­un­teers to com­bat what it sees as a force out to sub­vert elec­tions. Ms. En­gel­brecht’s Ju­ly speech in Mon­tana was ti­tled “Voter Fraud: The Plot to Un­der­mine Amer­i­can De­moc­racy.”

Looking, Very Closely, for Voter Fraud

CalvinBall wrote:how do we feel about romney saying it would be better if his parents were mexican and being latino would help him win this election?

CalvinBall wrote:how do we feel about romney saying it would be better if his parents were mexican and being latino would help him win this election?

JFLNYC wrote:

It might as well be Har­ry Pot­ter’s in­visi­ble Knight Bus, be­cause no one can prove it ex­ists.

The bus has been re­peat­ed­ly cited by True the Vote, a na­tion­al group fo­cused on voter fraud. Cath­er­ine En­gel­brecht, the group’s leader, told a gath­er­ing in Ju­ly about bus­es car­ry­ing dozens of vot­ers show­ing up at polling places dur­ing the re­cent Wis­con­sin re­call elec­tion.

“Mag­i­cal­ly, all of them need­ed to reg­is­ter and vote at the same time,” Ms. En­gel­brecht said. “Do you think maybe they reg­is­tered falsely un­der false pre­tenses? Prob­a­bly so.”

Weeks later, an­other True the Vote rep­re­sent­a­tive told a meet­ing of con­serva­tive women about a bus seen at a San Diego polling place in 2010 of­fload­ing peo­ple “who did not ap­pear to be from this coun­try.”

Of­fi­cials in both San Diego and Wis­con­sin said they had no ev­i­dence that the bus­es were re­al. “It’s so stealthy that no one is ever able to get a pic­ture and no one is able to get a li­cense plate,” said Reid Mag­ney, a spokes­man for the Wis­con­sin agency that over­sees elec­tions. In some ver­sions the bus is from an In­dian res­er­va­tion; in oth­ers it is full of vot­ers from Chi­cago or De­troit. “Pick your mi­nor­ity group,” he said.

The bus­es are part of the elec­tion fraud gospel ac­cord­ing to True the Vote, which is mo­bi­liz­ing a small army of vol­un­teers to com­bat what it sees as a force out to sub­vert elec­tions. Ms. En­gel­brecht’s Ju­ly speech in Mon­tana was ti­tled “Voter Fraud: The Plot to Un­der­mine Amer­i­can De­moc­racy.”

Looking, Very Closely, for Voter Fraud

pacino wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

traderdave wrote:

pacino wrote:i'm literally speechless about what he took away from his dealings with a chinese factory.

Yeah, I was listening to it thinking, "Is he going to get to his point sometime soon?". And then his big point ends up being that we have it great in America? A two-minute story to remind people who paid $50,000 each for lunch how lucky they are to be in America? Thanks, Captain Obvious.

He wasn't reminding them about how lucky they are to be American. He was reminding his fellow rich folks that they have every right to be disdainful of the ungrateful, unwashed 47% who should shut up, get off the dole, pull themselves up by the bootstraps, and not expect any help. Making minorities into scapegoats unfortunately still has political resonance.

he was longing for the days of a chinese economy where workers are crushed. destroying unions has two quality outcomes: 1. cuts off democratic party money and 2. decreases worker's rights and incomes.

HE CAN'T WAIT

Grotewold wrote:I didn't even hear the "it'd be helpful to be Latino" thing

td11 wrote:

Grotewold wrote:I didn't even hear the "it'd be helpful to be Latino" thing

what's this now

A cache of hidden-camera videos of Mitt Romney, speaking at an off-the-record fundraiser sometime in the last few months, has emerged on YouTube and Mother Jones. Among other things, Romney claims that "47 percent of people will vote for [Obama] no matter what" because they "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing," and that "it would be helpful to be Latino." The upshot: Mitt Romney in private is exactly the kind of entitled blowhard that you'd imagine based on his public persona.

mozartpc27 wrote:

pacino wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

traderdave wrote:

pacino wrote:i'm literally speechless about what he took away from his dealings with a chinese factory.

Yeah, I was listening to it thinking, "Is he going to get to his point sometime soon?". And then his big point ends up being that we have it great in America? A two-minute story to remind people who paid $50,000 each for lunch how lucky they are to be in America? Thanks, Captain Obvious.

He wasn't reminding them about how lucky they are to be American. He was reminding his fellow rich folks that they have every right to be disdainful of the ungrateful, unwashed 47% who should shut up, get off the dole, pull themselves up by the bootstraps, and not expect any help. Making minorities into scapegoats unfortunately still has political resonance.

he was longing for the days of a chinese economy where workers are crushed. destroying unions has two quality outcomes: 1. cuts off democratic party money and 2. decreases worker's rights and incomes.

HE CAN'T WAIT

jersey neither.