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Unread postby Youseff » Thu May 31, 2012 15:10:03

you can still eat whatever you want.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Roger Dorn » Thu May 31, 2012 15:11:12

Bloomberg is on a roll! "Stop and frisk", banning of sodas in certain establishments, banning of trans-fats, extends his own term limits...must be fun living in NYC.

Another reason I hate that city.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Youseff » Thu May 31, 2012 15:14:06

store round the corner from me wants to sell expired meat, but them precious liberal health inspectors wont let them. THOUGHT THIS WAS THE USA??
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Thu May 31, 2012 15:14:51

For the record, I do want to say that while 32 oz sodas aren't a hill I'm going to die on, and I like seatbelt and helmet laws, and the ban on transfat to me is more akin to health and sanitation laws in restaurants than a nanny state provision, I do think Bloomberg has a big fat authoritarian streak and much like his even more authoritarian predecessor (any remember the ferret debate?) seems to be going a bit too far and yet that's what seems to win elections in NYC.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Werthless » Thu May 31, 2012 15:19:26

Youseff wrote:store round the corner from me wants to sell expired meat, but them precious liberal health inspectors wont let them. THOUGHT THIS WAS THE USA??

I eat meat that is months overdue because I freeze it. :shock:

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Thu May 31, 2012 15:20:13

AND SEE WHAT IT DID TO YOUR BRAIN IT MADE YOU A REPUBLICAN

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby MoBettle » Thu May 31, 2012 15:20:33

Big gulps huh? Whelp, see ya later!

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Werthless » Thu May 31, 2012 15:22:38

Bucky wrote:AND SEE WHAT IT DID TO YOUR BRAIN IT MADE YOU A REPUBLICAN

3rd party voter! Yay me!

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Youseff » Thu May 31, 2012 15:23:20

Werthless wrote:
Youseff wrote:store round the corner from me wants to sell expired meat, but them precious liberal health inspectors wont let them. THOUGHT THIS WAS THE USA??

I eat meat that is months overdue because I freeze it. :shock:


Please don't do that with fish.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu May 31, 2012 15:36:00

I think Werthless hit the nail on the head. Placing restrictions on activities and behaviors is an unspectacular excercise of government power. Even when I don't agree with it, for example requiring everyone of any age to wear a bicycle helmet, it's still pretty easy to swallow.

Outright banning behaviors leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. If I want a 20 oz soda and someone wants to sell it to me, the government should not interfere in that transaction from where I'm standing.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu May 31, 2012 15:40:28

Youseff wrote:... in movie theaters ...

How much impact would banning 31oz of ice and 1oz of soda really have?

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Werthless » Thu May 31, 2012 15:42:43

Phan In Phlorida wrote:
Youseff wrote:... in movie theaters ...

How much impact would banning 31oz of ice and 1oz of soda really have?

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Barry Jive » Thu May 31, 2012 15:48:16

oh man, this thread took some pretty sick turns right there

I'm pretty down with letting people eat whatever they want but I really don't see a problem with taxing the shit out of it. It's not like healthcare and abortions are free
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Thu May 31, 2012 15:51:14

yeah, i agree with that. heck, you can go buy a whole cancer ward full of marboros if you could afford them

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu May 31, 2012 15:52:38

that's a little far. I agree with not letting people smoke in cancer wards

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby Barry Jive » Thu May 31, 2012 16:00:03

good posts
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu May 31, 2012 16:27:54

Houshphandzadeh wrote:If I rode a bike, I would probably wear a helmet, but I would hate it so much


It is a public service to wear a bucket so they can tell who you were with out the expense of dental record searches and DNA matches.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby MoBettle » Thu May 31, 2012 17:09:40

Barry Jive wrote:oh man, this thread took some pretty sick turns right there

I'm pretty down with letting people eat whatever they want but I really don't see a problem with taxing the shit out of it. It's not like healthcare and abortions are free


Yeah, why not give food/drink grades based on nutritional value, sort of like what they do with restaurants, and give the different grades different tax values? It might actually incentivize companies to make their stuff healthier, and for people to make better choices without taking choices away from them.

I guess then there would be debates and lobbying about the formula, but at least it would catch the obvious stuff.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Thu May 31, 2012 17:25:24

Werthless wrote:This is precious.

The liberals on this board (and those off it) are perfectly fine legislating restrictions on soda intake, cigarettes, bicycle helmets, speed limits, seat belts, etc, because they assert that society is better off without these behaviors (drinking large sodas, smoking, riding without a helmet, etc). That is the only standard! And yet, if conservatives try to pass laws that meet that standard ("It will make society better off"), the standard is not enough to justify taking away that choice. Everyone agrees that abortions are bad, so let's ban them. Ohhhh no, we can't do that; this is infringing upon the woman's right to do whatever the hell she wants to do with her body, including stopping the tiny heart beating inside her. But preventing her from putting 20oz of soda in her body, well, no, we liberals can prevent her from doing that. She doesnt control that choice. I don't understand how so many of you can vehemently defend freedom to abort fetuses but not freedom to eat whatever you want.

It makes me sad, more than anything else. That's why I posted my modified quote, that it's silly to defend a government seizing choice from you just because you agree with that choice. In my opinion, it's better to defend freedom whenever it is threatened.


this is perhaps the clumsiest of all the logical constructions you've foisted on people here, and you've foisted some doozies.
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Re: Is It November Yet? Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Thu May 31, 2012 17:28:46

thephan wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:If I rode a bike, I would probably wear a helmet, but I would hate it so much


It is a public service to wear a bucket so they can tell who you were with out the expense of dental record searches and DNA matches.


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