Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby phdave » Wed Mar 07, 2012 01:42:38

jerseyhoya wrote:Jean Schmidt, one of the worst members of Congress of either party (questioned Murtha's patriotism on the House floor), loses in the GOP primary tonight. Neat.


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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Mar 07, 2012 02:49:21

Neck and neck between Romney and Santorum in Alaska. I guess I can waste another half hour waiting up for this.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed Mar 07, 2012 03:29:56

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CalvinBall wrote:the heads on MSNBC just made a good point: if newt was not in the race, santorum wins ohio easily. that is how much mitt romney blows.


This whole Newt has to drop out narrative has a serious flaw: he's won more delegates than Santorum, which I assume means he's also gotten more votes that counted.

Whatever, it doesn't matter: Romney will definitely wind up the nominee.


Maybe it was true when you said it, but Santorum has a 67 delegate lead over Newt now.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Mar 07, 2012 04:07:26

VoxOrion wrote:Can you guys help me understand how Romney has 261 delegates, Santorum has 98, and we're still talking about the Republican primaries?

Like, is this just news cycle trying to make something exciting that really isn't, or am I missing something? I'm so deliberately "tuned out" that I am probably dull and stale?

This probably sums up the phenomenon more succinctly than I or anyone else could...

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:32:15

I think it was Huckabee on his radio program who suggested the reason for Santorum, Newt, and I guess Paul for staying in the race is that between the three of them, they have a better chance of denying Romney a majority of delegates. I'm not sure that holds up--do you need an outright majority of delegates to win the nomination, or can you win it with a plurality?
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:37:00

You need a majority. Romney's winning a majority of the delegates so far, and with more winner take all states coming up, I'm pretty sure the larger the field, the easier it will be for Romney to keep winning a majority of the delegates.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:41:16

The Nightman Cometh wrote:JH can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think there is a clear history of candidates in a primary seeing their support swell as they wrap up the primary and go into the convention victorious. Obama may have a decent lead in the polls right now, but I don't think that lasts.


so your bold call is that the current gap will change between now & November

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:00:11

Sarah and Todd Palin were two of Newt Gingrich's 1,865 votes in Alaska last night. I enjoy the fact that the Palin candidate finished last in her state.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:22:38

phdave wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Jean Schmidt, one of the worst members of Congress of either party (questioned Murtha's patriotism on the House floor), loses in the GOP primary tonight. Neat.


She was frightening.

The guy who beat her might be nicer, but he's probably crazier. From what I understand, he thinks we should be in Iraq on a permanent basis.

Oh and Joe the Plumber won the GOP primary in Ohio's 9th congressional district. WTF is wrong with Ohio?

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:24:59

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
phdave wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Jean Schmidt, one of the worst members of Congress of either party (questioned Murtha's patriotism on the House floor), loses in the GOP primary tonight. Neat.


She was frightening.

The guy who beat her might be nicer, but he's probably crazier. From what I understand, he thinks we should be in Iraq on a permanent basis.

Oh and Joe the Plumber won the GOP primary in Ohio's 9th congressional district. WTF is wrong with Ohio?


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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby thephan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:49:05

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Oh and Joe the Plumber won the GOP primary in Ohio's 9th congressional district. WTF is wrong with Ohio?


They needed a replacement for their questionable representative dennis kucinich.No experience, lots of exposure, sketchy businessman JtP is their man.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby thephan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:54:39

So the 40% for Paul in VA is being played like an enlightenment against Romney. 5% of the voters turned up and some percentage of those were just there to disrupt in an open primary that obviously no one cares about. Some people took to the air and said they were under represented as their candidate was not available on the ballot. The VA primary was a complete joke. For the record, I thin Santorum would have won if he were on the ballot.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby dajafi » Wed Mar 07, 2012 13:05:06

thephan wrote: For the record, I thin Santorum would have won if he were on the ballot.


Not sure I agree, but if true it would have meant a very different storyline today. And it's an interesting argument which of them would be stronger vs. Obama in the general.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby lethal » Wed Mar 07, 2012 14:19:55

jerseyhoya wrote:Sarah and Todd Palin were two of Newt Gingrich's 1,865 votes in Alaska last night. I enjoy the fact that the Palin candidate finished last in her state.


The jerseyhoya dream come true. Or nightmare I guess.

--CNN's PAUL VERCAMMEN, to Sarah Palin: "If we wind up with an open convention and someone wants to place your name, throw your name into the hat, would you stop them? Would you be open to that?"

PALIN: "As I say, anything is possible. And I don't close any doors that perhaps would be open out there. So, no, I wouldn't close that door. And my plan is to be at that convention."

--Palin later told Neil Cavuto on Fox News that she voted for "the cheerful one, Newt Gingrich."

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Mar 07, 2012 15:04:18

lethal wrote:
--Palin later told Neil Cavuto on Fox News that she voted for "the cheerful one, Newt Gingrich."

I guess it's easy to mistake Newt for the Pillsbury Doughboy.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby BuddyGroom » Wed Mar 07, 2012 15:17:02

Man, good news that Jean Schmidt loses, and it sounds like even-worse people pop up to replace.

This is admittedly a partisan Democrat sentiment, but the congressional class of '94 largely seems like a bunch of consensus-seeking statesmen compared to the crowd the Tea Party has unleashed.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Werthless » Wed Mar 07, 2012 16:13:40

dajafi wrote:In the modern media age--since FDR, let's say--by my count, the less skilled politician has won the presidency maybe twice: 1968 and 1976, and both of those are debatable. Anyone care to assert that Romney is a more skilled politician than Obama?

Hard to argue with this when we tend to base a person's political skill on how he does in elections.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby Grotewold » Wed Mar 07, 2012 16:24:26

Hard for the less-cool guy as well

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Mar 07, 2012 16:43:07

jerseyhoya wrote:You need a majority. Romney's winning a majority of the delegates so far, and with more winner take all states coming up, I'm pretty sure the larger the field, the easier it will be for Romney to keep winning a majority of the delegates.


Chuck Todd was on this morning confirming the Romney campaign's assertion (not that they asked him to) that the numbers practically guarantee Mittens the nomination. Said that Santorum needs to win 67% of the remaining delegates to reach 1,144 and that did not include having Gingrich and Paul still in the race and also did not factor out states that Romney already has in the bag.

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