Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby drsmooth » Sat Mar 03, 2012 15:12:46

Bucky wrote:I'm surprised there's no org like Gartner who covers the industry and does something like the "Gartner Magic Quadrant" for drugs. Every other business in the world thrives on competitive comparison; why would pharma not?

But JLBurton's point is very relevant, too. And even is evidenced in BuddyGroom's predecessor quote. There are many people getting benefits from Zoloft and Cimbalta; I suspect it's specific genetics, and not any readily identifiable condition that someone can look at and pick from the different available therapies.


That, and also this is medicine rather reads, feeds & speeds; if you're running tests, frequently over years (some of the good - or bad - effects may not materialize except over long periods of administration) to see which Rx works best, you may be in the awkward (and sue-able) position of having providing some people with inferior - or outright dangerous - medicines.

Then there's the issue of what's a "successful" outcome? Human beings are remarkably, perversely various in their attitudes and preferences respecting personal wellbeing. "Healthier" is harder to agree on than it may seem.

I'm hopeful there are ingenious testing/verification protocols that might be employed to accomplish the desired comparative results. You can be sure any Rx/devise/surgical procedure-devising enterprise or entrepreneur will have some equally ingenious objection to the results if they are on the "losing" end of the judgment.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby Monkeyboy » Sat Mar 03, 2012 17:20:56

It's also quite probable that depression and many other mental health issues are actually several different problems that have similar behavioral symptoms. So while it's also true that genetics may make one person respond to one drug over another, it's also true that there may be different underlying conditions driving the disparate drug outcomes. The brain, she is a complicated place.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Mar 03, 2012 18:16:03

An estimated 1500 voters turned away at a caucus site in Washington this morning. Amazing.

Caucuses are the dumbest things

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby drsmooth » Sat Mar 03, 2012 20:22:11

Rush does it with a Mike

no lube (or mattress)
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Mar 03, 2012 21:13:02

jerseyhoya wrote:An estimated 1500 voters turned away at a caucus site in Washington this morning. Amazing.

Caucuses are the dumbest things


Lack of proper ID? Probably all Santorum or Paul voters.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby drsmooth » Sat Mar 03, 2012 21:55:57

TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:An estimated 1500 voters turned away at a caucus site in Washington this morning. Amazing.

Caucuses are the dumbest things


Lack of proper ID? Probably all Santorum or Paul voters.


santorum voters lack IUDs
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Mar 03, 2012 22:23:14

Romney winning by a fairly comfortable margin in Washington State.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby pacino » Sat Mar 03, 2012 22:23:32

drsmooth wrote:Rush does it with a Mike

no lube (or mattress)

i dont accept his lawyer's apology. he obviously meant everything he said. he did it three days straight.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Mar 03, 2012 22:37:03

pacino wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Rush does it with a Mike

no lube (or mattress)

i dont accept his lawyer's apology. he obviously meant everything he said. he did it three days straight.

Also he forgot to include you in it

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby pacino » Sat Mar 03, 2012 22:37:20

jerseyhoya wrote:
pacino wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Rush does it with a Mike

no lube (or mattress)

i dont accept his lawyer's apology. he obviously meant everything he said. he did it three days straight.

Also he forgot to include you in it

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Mar 03, 2012 22:47:32

So this is the third state Romney has won after being behind outside the margin of error in state polling (also FL and MI) a week or two out

Seems like a pretty decent chance Ohio gets added to that list on Tuesday. Hope mcgraw didn't bet the rent money on Santorum.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Mar 04, 2012 00:44:39

jerseyhoya wrote:So this is the third state Romney has won after being behind outside the margin of error in state polling (also FL and MI) a week or two out

Seems like a pretty decent chance Ohio gets added to that list on Tuesday. Hope mcgraw didn't bet the rent money on Santorum.


Sure, since all those Mormon thugs are keeping the real conservatives away from the polls.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Mar 04, 2012 00:46:08

pacino wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Rush does it with a Mike

no lube (or mattress)

i dont accept his lawyer's apology. he obviously meant everything he said. he did it three days straight.


All Rush did is make it explicit that this has been about punishing women who have sex all along. I'm surprised the Gardasil issue hasn't creeped back into this. Because if you're a woman, and you have sex, you deserve cervical cancer too.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Mar 04, 2012 00:56:36

Also, I'm beginning to consider the possibility that Obama put the whole birth control thing on the map on purpose.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby Swiggers » Sun Mar 04, 2012 09:46:52

pacino wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Rush does it with a Mike

no lube (or mattress)

i dont accept his lawyer's apology. he obviously meant everything he said. he did it three days straight.


He doesn't do this if not for the loss of sponsors.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby phdave » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:33:34

TenuredVulture wrote:Also, I'm beginning to consider the possibility that Obama put the whole birth control thing on the map on purpose.


I've been hoping the Dems would use contraception as a wedge issue for awhile. It was obvious that the abortion issue was just the tip if the iceberg for a lot of pro lifers. Yet I was listening to NPR on Friday and they were still discussing how it was a mistake for Obama to initiate the contraceptive ruling in the first place because he had to compromise after the Bishops complained. After the compromise, the Republicans showed how unwilling to compromise they are. On the issue of contraception, that is especially going to look bad. So I see this as a win-win for Obama.

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:53:56

phdave wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Also, I'm beginning to consider the possibility that Obama put the whole birth control thing on the map on purpose.


I've been hoping the Dems would use contraception as a wedge issue for awhile. It was obvious that the abortion issue was just the tip if the iceberg for a lot of pro lifers. Yet I was listening to NPR on Friday and they were still discussing how it was a mistake for Obama to initiate the contraceptive ruling in the first place because he had to compromise after the Bishops complained. After the compromise, the Republicans showed how unwilling to compromise they are. On the issue of contraception, that is especially going to look bad. So I see this as a win-win for Obama.


The only big mistake from the Dems I've seen is that the appear to be allowing the idea that somehow this is government money going to subsidize birth control stay in circulation. Any form of health insurance is going to subsidize the consequences of people's choices. I'd rather not be in a health insurance pool with people who pound soda and smoke cigarettes and spend hours at the catfish buffet. But we don't get that choice.
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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

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Re: Politics: Spreading Santorum All Over This Great Nation

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Mar 05, 2012 08:28:25

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