It's Pronounced BAY-ner (Politics Thread)

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 13:16:56

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaP0Jzd6QA[/youtube]

Gosh you watch an ad like this and it's hard to get past the thought that he's going to run for President someday and probably do well.

by **drsmooth** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 13:51:01

jerseyhoya wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaP0Jzd6QA[/youtube]

Gosh you watch an ad like this and it's hard to get past the thought that he's going to run for President someday and probably do well.

gosh, his gestures ARE really sincere, you CAN get that from watching an ad like this

it's when you listen to what he says that you realize it's hard to get passt the thought that you sure don't want him running anything more important than Florida

by **dajafi** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 14:33:06

jerseyhoya wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaP0Jzd6QA[/youtube]

Gosh you watch an ad like this and it's hard to get past the thought that he's going to run for President someday and probably do well.

Yup. Soon as I saw that guy, I saw a future highly viable presidential contender, absent a necrophilia scandal or something.

I credit him as smart; I hope he's less extreme than he initially came off running against Crist, before Crist went indy. Will be interesting to watch him in the Senate (and how quickly he chooses to run; as you well know, there sure seems to be an inverse relationship between duration of time in the Senate and prospects of winning the White House).

by **drsmooth** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 14:41:47

So Rubio fundamentally believes the pivotal issue for our nation, for our time, is "whether we want to become more like the place my parents came from"

That is, whether we want to become more like Cuba. Implying that we're already uncomfortably too much like Cuba.

This guy is Crazy O'Donnell with higher SAT scores and a better credit rating.

by **kopphanatic** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 14:51:13

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/26/buck-church-state/

Ken Buck doesn't believe in Separation of Church and State.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 16:21:42

Final Eagleton Poll has Runyan and Adler tied at 44% among likely voters

I would be surprised but not shocked if Adler won at this point

by **TenuredVulture** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 16:27:30

jerseyhoya wrote:Final Eagleton Poll has Runyan and Adler tied at 44% among likely voters

I would be surprised but not shocked if Adler won at this point

Why are they doing the final poll a week before the election? I do hope they've gotten out of the prediction business.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 16:38:41

I dunno.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 16:53:54

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEPlZYp5-Pk[/youtube]

I dunno if this helps Brown or reminds everyone that he's like 142 years old...

by **TenuredVulture** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 16:56:29

I think it's pretty effective if it's part of a larger narrative the campaign has been able to develop. When I watched the debate the same idea occurred to me. I think Brown also need to remind people that Arnold is a Republican.

by **azrider** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 17:36:14

this is something that's been around for over a couple years, and it's always kind of scared me. i was just hoping to get an obama supporter translation of this excerpt. is this clip totally taken out of context? imo, this security force just sounds eerily similar to the SA or brown shirts.

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by **TenuredVulture** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 17:54:15

A 20 second clip? Really? Again, I repeat. People need to chill. Get a grip.

We aren't going to replace dollars with Ameros either. Just in case you were worried about that. And Rick Perry's Trans-Texas Corridor may be an expensive boondoggle, but it doesn't threaten US sovereignty.

by **azrider** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 18:27:07

TenuredVulture wrote:A 20 second clip? Really? Again, I repeat. People need to chill. Get a grip.

We aren't going to replace dollars with Ameros either. Just in case you were worried about that. And Rick Perry's Trans-Texas Corridor may be an expensive boondoggle, but it doesn't threaten US sovereignty.

thank you for the response, but you made no attempt to answer my question as to what he meant in that clip. what civilian security force is he referring to and why is such a security force that would equal our armed forces is needed?

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 19:23:40

azrider wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:A 20 second clip? Really? Again, I repeat. People need to chill. Get a grip.

We aren't going to replace dollars with Ameros either. Just in case you were worried about that. And Rick Perry's Trans-Texas Corridor may be an expensive boondoggle, but it doesn't threaten US sovereignty.

thank you for the response, but you made no attempt to answer my question as to what he meant in that clip. what civilian security force is he referring to and why is such a security force that would equal our armed forces is needed?

According to FactCheck.org...

Obama was not talking about a "security force" with guns or police powers. He was talking specifically about expanding AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps and the USA Freedom Corps, which is the volunteer initiative launched by the Bush administration after the attacks of 9/11, and about increasing the number of trained Foreign Service officers who populate U.S. embassies overseas.

And from the conservative internet publication American Thinker...

He plans to double the Peace Corps' budget by 2011, and expand AmeriCorps, USA Freedom Corps, VISTA, YouthBuild Program, and the Senior Corps. Plus, he proposes to form a Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps, Homeland Security Corps, Global Energy Corps, and a Green Jobs Corps. Here a corps - there a corps - everywhere a corps corps.

...

It seems clear that he meant to say, in effect, that the security of the nation is as dependent on its unarmed community service providers as it is on its armed military personnel. Even the nomenclature "corps," as in Peace Corps, carries a martial connotation as does the name, Salvation Army. His point: national security begins with civilians. It's a message like the one America's home front heard throughout World War II. Except in his case, he means to marshal volunteers for social service and economic equality while saving the environment.

Of course Glenn Beck and the like will tell you it means American Gestapo, but Beck is a nincompoop loon, a tool.

(there's something I haven't heard in awhile... calling someone a tool)

by **azrider** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 19:33:34

thank you phan.... kind of the response i was hoping for. i did figure it was out of context, but you wouldn't happen to have a link for a full version or a transcript of that speech?

by **drsmooth** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 20:54:37

azrider wrote:thank you phan.... kind of the response i was hoping for. i did figure it was out of context, but you wouldn't happen to have a link for a full version or a transcript of that speech?

oh for the love of

Click this link to begin your discovery of the internet

by **kopphanatic** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 21:00:46

"I'm sorry that it came to that, and I apologize if it appeared overly forceful, but I was concerned about Rand's safety."

This clown's "apology" for what happened. He was the county coordinator for the campaign.

Paul's initial apology was half-assed too fwiw.

These people have no shame.

by **TenuredVulture** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 22:06:11

azrider wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:A 20 second clip? Really? Again, I repeat. People need to chill. Get a grip.

We aren't going to replace dollars with Ameros either. Just in case you were worried about that. And Rick Perry's Trans-Texas Corridor may be an expensive boondoggle, but it doesn't threaten US sovereignty.

thank you for the response, but you made no attempt to answer my question as to what he meant in that clip. what civilian security force is he referring to and why is such a security force that would equal our armed forces is needed?

You'd have to be pretty gullible to think that was in context.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 23:51:45

Monmouth has Runyan up 5

If I feel like avoiding work tomorrow I might put together a thread on all the races in the Philly metro area with links to campaign websites and whatnot.

by **CalvinBall** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 00:01:00

just have bigedrobot do it

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