It's Pronounced BAY-ner (Politics Thread)

Postby kopphanatic » Mon Oct 18, 2010 22:12:47

These are the kind of people coming to Washington in January. Michele Bachmann clones, only this time with gavel power.

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Postby Harpua » Mon Oct 18, 2010 23:11:12

This almost seems like performance art. The mustache, the gloves, the name of the party. But hey, rent IS too damn high.

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Postby drsmooth » Tue Oct 19, 2010 00:34:57

Harpua wrote:This almost seems like performance art. The mustache, the gloves, the name of the party. But hey, rent IS too damn high.


It does sound like a good time was had by all:

Albany Governor Debate Verges on Farce

Carl P. Paladino, the Republican candidate, startled those watching by accidentally walking off stage during the closing statements, in search of the men’s room.

“When you gotta go, you gotta go,” Mr. Paladino’s campaign manager, Michael R. Caputo, said afterward, by way of explanation.
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Postby drsmooth » Tue Oct 19, 2010 00:45:04

TV - Rare Earths Watch Update

Krugman playing at sabre-rattler
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Postby traderdave » Tue Oct 19, 2010 09:27:50



So this is the state of American politics at the moment. Sharron Angle insulting Latinos; Asians; Deerborn, Michigan and Canada. Carl Paladino threatening to "take out" reporters and openly bashing homosexuals. Christine O'Donnell promising us she is not a witch. Joe Miller arresting reporters and suggesting we build an "American Wall". I'd summarize a few things Rand Paul is up to but my TV doesn't get reception from Mars. The totality of the crap spewed by these idiots makes the typical Jersey Shore episode look like the Gaithers Gospel Hour. The right to vote is one of our most sacred rights and most people either don't bother or they make a joke out of it. Wake the fuck up America!!!

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Postby traderdave » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:20:36

Hey, did you guys and gals know that the First Amendment decrees the separation of church and state? Christine O'Donnell didn't:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02501.html

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Postby kruker » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:27:33

And yet she's the strict constructionist.
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Postby Woody » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:33:13

Has Sara Palin taught these broads nothing
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Postby kruker » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:34:42

drsmooth wrote:TV - Rare Earths Watch Update

Krugman playing at sabre-rattler


But, as usual, he offers very little in the area of solutions. Not that I'm putting the onus on Paul to do so, but for someone who has been ringing this bell for sometime now, it'd be nice to see some ideas. From what I can discern, the Conscience is treading much closer to his realist counterparts on the issue of China than those he self identifies with.
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Postby dajafi » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:01:28

traderdave wrote:


So this is the state of American politics at the moment. Sharron Angle insulting Latinos; Asians; Deerborn, Michigan and Canada. Carl Paladino threatening to "take out" reporters and openly bashing homosexuals. Christine O'Donnell promising us she is not a witch. Joe Miller arresting reporters and suggesting we build an "American Wall". I'd summarize a few things Rand Paul is up to but my TV doesn't get reception from Mars. The totality of the crap spewed by these idiots makes the typical Jersey Shore episode look like the Gaithers Gospel Hour. The right to vote is one of our most sacred rights and most people either don't bother or they make a joke out of it. Wake the $#@! up America!!!


I guess it's easy to posit the inevitability of anything that happens, but I do believe that the state of our politics now is a direct reflection of a culture that elevates spectacle over substance and shows endless tolerance for selfishness. What I find most disgusting about the Tea Party is that, with a very small handful of exceptions, its adherent candidates are not really about "small government"; were that the case, they'd talk about what they would personally and societally sacrifice, acknowledge that there's some pain inherent to that, and make the argument that those tradeoffs are justified in the bigger picture.

What they're about is picking winners and losers when it comes to sucking at the government teat. When Joe Miller gets assistance from the welfare state, he's deserving; when some African-American woman (or her kid!) gets it, she's a parasite. It's more cultural than racial, though that might be a distinction without a difference.

I'm all for the country living within its means and willing to see some of the cows I like get slaughtered to make that happen. I'm sure there are many Republicans like that as well. But between the unapologetic and totally self-righteous selfishness rampant in our culture and the zero-sum, heroes-and-villains approach we collectively take to politics now, who's going to compromise? Who even has incentive to compromise?

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Postby lethal » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:09:46

traderdave wrote:


So this is the state of American politics at the moment. Sharron Angle insulting Latinos; Asians; Deerborn, Michigan and Canada. Carl Paladino threatening to "take out" reporters and openly bashing homosexuals. Christine O'Donnell promising us she is not a witch. Joe Miller arresting reporters and suggesting we build an "American Wall". I'd summarize a few things Rand Paul is up to but my TV doesn't get reception from Mars. The totality of the crap spewed by these idiots makes the typical Jersey Shore episode look like the Gaithers Gospel Hour. The right to vote is one of our most sacred rights and most people either don't bother or they make a joke out of it. Wake the $#@! up America!!!


"So that’s what we want is a secure and sovereign nation and, you know, I don’t know that all of you are Latino. Some of you look a little more Asian to me. I don’t know that. [Note: it's the Hispanic Student Union. The whole room is Hispanic teenagers.] What we know, what we know about ourselves is that we are a melting pot in this country. My grandchildren are evidence of that. I’m evidence of that. I’ve been called the first Asian legislator in our Nevada State Assembly."

That last comment, about her being called the first Asian legislator? I have no idea what she is talking about

UPDATE: The Angle campaign says she made that remark about being the first Asian legislator because "a reporter thought she looked Asian." OK.


I can't believe Angle is going to be a Senator.

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Postby traderdave » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:33:23

lethal wrote:
traderdave wrote:


So this is the state of American politics at the moment. Sharron Angle insulting Latinos; Asians; Deerborn, Michigan and Canada. Carl Paladino threatening to "take out" reporters and openly bashing homosexuals. Christine O'Donnell promising us she is not a witch. Joe Miller arresting reporters and suggesting we build an "American Wall". I'd summarize a few things Rand Paul is up to but my TV doesn't get reception from Mars. The totality of the crap spewed by these idiots makes the typical Jersey Shore episode look like the Gaithers Gospel Hour. The right to vote is one of our most sacred rights and most people either don't bother or they make a joke out of it. Wake the $#@! up America!!!


"So that’s what we want is a secure and sovereign nation and, you know, I don’t know that all of you are Latino. Some of you look a little more Asian to me. I don’t know that. [Note: it's the Hispanic Student Union. The whole room is Hispanic teenagers.] What we know, what we know about ourselves is that we are a melting pot in this country. My grandchildren are evidence of that. I’m evidence of that. I’ve been called the first Asian legislator in our Nevada State Assembly."

That last comment, about her being called the first Asian legislator? I have no idea what she is talking about

UPDATE: The Angle campaign says she made that remark about being the first Asian legislator because "a reporter thought she looked Asian." OK.


I can't believe Angle is going to be a Senator.


What is particularly sad is that a room full of high school students can see right through her bull shit but grown adults will be lining up to cast their ballot for her in two weeks. I guess you'd have to live in Nevada to know for sure but is Harry Reid really THAT bad?

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Postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:45:42

traderdave wrote:
lethal wrote:
traderdave wrote:


So this is the state of American politics at the moment. Sharron Angle insulting Latinos; Asians; Deerborn, Michigan and Canada. Carl Paladino threatening to "take out" reporters and openly bashing homosexuals. Christine O'Donnell promising us she is not a witch. Joe Miller arresting reporters and suggesting we build an "American Wall". I'd summarize a few things Rand Paul is up to but my TV doesn't get reception from Mars. The totality of the crap spewed by these idiots makes the typical Jersey Shore episode look like the Gaithers Gospel Hour. The right to vote is one of our most sacred rights and most people either don't bother or they make a joke out of it. Wake the $#@! up America!!!


"So that’s what we want is a secure and sovereign nation and, you know, I don’t know that all of you are Latino. Some of you look a little more Asian to me. I don’t know that. [Note: it's the Hispanic Student Union. The whole room is Hispanic teenagers.] What we know, what we know about ourselves is that we are a melting pot in this country. My grandchildren are evidence of that. I’m evidence of that. I’ve been called the first Asian legislator in our Nevada State Assembly."

That last comment, about her being called the first Asian legislator? I have no idea what she is talking about

UPDATE: The Angle campaign says she made that remark about being the first Asian legislator because "a reporter thought she looked Asian." OK.


I can't believe Angle is going to be a Senator.


What is particularly sad is that a room full of high school students can see right through her bull $#@! but grown adults will be lining up to cast their ballot for her in two weeks. I guess you'd have to live in Nevada to know for sure but is Harry Reid really THAT bad?


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Postby kruker » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:50:39

dajafi wrote:I guess it's easy to posit the inevitability of anything that happens, but I do believe that the state of our politics now is a direct reflection of a culture that elevates spectacle over substance and shows endless tolerance for selfishness. What I find most disgusting about the Tea Party is that, with a very small handful of exceptions, its adherent candidates are not really about "small government"; were that the case, they'd talk about what they would personally and societally sacrifice, acknowledge that there's some pain inherent to that, and make the argument that those tradeoffs are justified in the bigger picture.

What they're about is picking winners and losers when it comes to sucking at the government teat. When Joe Miller gets assistance from the welfare state, he's deserving; when some African-American woman (or her kid!) gets it, she's a parasite. It's more cultural than racial, though that might be a distinction without a difference.

I'm all for the country living within its means and willing to see some of the cows I like get slaughtered to make that happen. I'm sure there are many Republicans like that as well. But between the unapologetic and totally self-righteous selfishness rampant in our culture and the zero-sum, heroes-and-villains approach we collectively take to politics now, who's going to compromise? Who even has incentive to compromise?


Is "waste, fraud, and abuse" not specific enough for you? It'd be a hilarious line, if only so many didn't seem to think that's an acceptable response.
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Postby traderdave » Tue Oct 19, 2010 13:00:41

That Matt Taibbi article embedded in dajafi's post is great, BTW. It reads as though he wrote it before his first cup of coffee one morning.

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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Tue Oct 19, 2010 13:03:56

although I remember most GI Joes being clean shaven

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Postby Fusilli Jerry » Tue Oct 19, 2010 13:48:43

Hear that sound? That's the sound of a thousand Tea Partiers rushing to return their Terrorist Obama and Communist Obama Halloween Costumes for new Devil Obama duds:

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh on Monday rolled out a new attack on Barack Obama, charging that the president looks "demonic."

Pointing to a recent picture of the president highlighted by the conservative Drudge Report, Limbaugh improbably declared during his show Monday that there are no other photos of "an American president with facial expressions like this."

"These pictures, they look demonic," Limbaugh said, in comments later posted on his website.

"It is strange that these pictures would be released," Limbaugh said of the images, which were taken by a wire service. "It's very, very, very strange."

"An American president has never had facial expressions like this," the conservative insisted. "At least, we've never seen photos of an American president with facial expressions like this."

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Postby kimbatiste » Tue Oct 19, 2010 14:45:40

The best part of the O'Donnell First Amendment FAIL is that the crowd reacts with laughter and shock and she has a huge smile thinking that they are laughing at Coons thanks to a great zinger by her.

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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Oct 19, 2010 14:51:44

earlier i saw a joe sestak ad where he is putting dog poop in a trash can.

and dan truitt, the local republican running for pa house, has a flyer out with a teenage girl showing a lot of cleavage.

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Postby Bucky » Tue Oct 19, 2010 14:55:48

can't judge the truitt poster until i see it with my own eyes calvin

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