kopphanatic wrote:Can we officially kick Lieberman out of the party now? What's one more Republican vote?

You'd be better off kicking Olbermann out of the party.

Mountainphan wrote:

kopphanatic wrote:Can we officially kick Lieberman out of the party now? What's one more Republican vote?

You'd be better off kicking Olbermann out of the party.

uhm, ok?


anyway, Lieberman is not a Democrat and hasn't been in the Democractic party for some time. Right around the time he APPEARED AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, he lost any right to claim anything of that sort. He's going to get crushed in Connecticut.

pacino wrote:

Mountainphan wrote:

kopphanatic wrote:Can we officially kick Lieberman out of the party now? What's one more Republican vote?

You'd be better off kicking Olbermann out of the party.

uhm, ok?


anyway, Lieberman is not a Democrat and hasn't been in the Democractic party for some time. Right around the time he APPEARED AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, he lost any right to claim anything of that sort. He's going to get crushed in Connecticut.

I meant caucus, my mistake.

jerseyhoya wrote:Rachel Maddow pointing out that Massachusetts isn't actually any more self identifying Democratic than the rest of the country. Solid point.

so you're essentially confirming, as our resident authority on Republican voting predilections, that our comrade from (with? in?) the mountains doesn't know what he's talking about.

the night is not entirely wasted.

oh and yeah, I WILL be posting here tomorrow, buck naked. Not a stitch on.

pacino wrote:

Mountainphan wrote:

kopphanatic wrote:Can we officially kick Lieberman out of the party now? What's one more Republican vote?

You'd be better off kicking Olbermann out of the party.

uhm, ok?


anyway, Lieberman is not a Democrat and hasn't been in the Democractic party for some time. Right around the time he APPEARED AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, he lost any right to claim anything of that sort. He's going to get crushed in Connecticut.

Relax, Larry.

kopphanatic wrote:

pacino wrote:

Mountainphan wrote:

kopphanatic wrote:Can we officially kick Lieberman out of the party now? What's one more Republican vote?

You'd be better off kicking Olbermann out of the party.

uhm, ok?


anyway, Lieberman is not a Democrat and hasn't been in the Democractic party for some time. Right around the time he APPEARED AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, he lost any right to claim anything of that sort. He's going to get crushed in Connecticut.

I meant caucus, my mistake.

Yes, well Harry Reid, other than a few things recently, is an utter pushover and apparently lets ol Joe run all over him. Losing him may be a blessing in disguise.

drsmooth wrote:oh and yeah, I WILL be posting here tomorrow, buck naked. Not a stitch on.

Don't worry about it. I don't believe anyone really cares.

i have been to that bar that maddow is at. it was kinda a cool moment when it clicked bc i am watching with my friend who was there with me for his bachelor party.

"I know you all worked really hard."

Man, what a terribly run campaign.

Ah Chris Matthews

"If you can beat them here, you can beat them anywhere."

Rattling off Dems who should be scared

"In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated." - Jim Webb

So that door is closed

jerseyhoya wrote:"In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated." - Jim Webb

So that door is closed

jesus christ, how long does he want the process to be? this man may as well just be a republican again since bush is no longer in charge.

democrats are pathetic, sniveling little creatures sometimes. i can't stand it.

jerseyhoya wrote:"In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated." - Jim Webb

So that door is closed

His remarks may open doors Webb wishes hadn't been opened. Desperate people, desperate measures, etc

If the House passes the Senate bill as-is, then the Senate need not vote again until they get a shot at the agreed-upon changes through reconciliation.

I have great respect for Webb, but he's nuts if he thinks one special election, in the worst possible political moment, with an all-time dog shit candidate, is a "referendum" on fucking anything.

This is a basic test of whether the Democrats have the courage of their own supposed convictions. If they run like c0ckroaches from this, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, they'll deserve what they get this fall. Unfortunately, the country will get the absolute fucking crazies currently in the opposition, and worse from there.

dajafi wrote:If the House passes the Senate bill as-is, then the Senate need not vote again until they get a shot at the agreed-upon changes through reconciliation.

I have great respect for Webb, but he's nuts if he thinks one special election, in the worst possible political moment, with an all-time dog $#@! candidate, is a "referendum" on $#@! anything.

This is a basic test of whether the Democrats have the courage of their own supposed convictions. If they run like c0ckroaches from this, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, they'll deserve what they get this fall. Unfortunately, the country will get the absolute $#@! crazies currently in the opposition, and worse from there.

Don't forget New Jersey and Virginia. He had a front row seat for those elections.

cshort wrote:

dajafi wrote:If the House passes the Senate bill as-is, then the Senate need not vote again until they get a shot at the agreed-upon changes through reconciliation.

I have great respect for Webb, but he's nuts if he thinks one special election, in the worst possible political moment, with an all-time dog $#@! candidate, is a "referendum" on $#@! anything.

This is a basic test of whether the Democrats have the courage of their own supposed convictions. If they run like c0ckroaches from this, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, they'll deserve what they get this fall. Unfortunately, the country will get the absolute $#@! crazies currently in the opposition, and worse from there.

Don't forget New Jersey and Virginia. He had a front row seat for those elections.

They were all terrible candidates. Lather rinse repeat. There is no wave.

Remain calm...all is well.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro[/youtube]

Oh, there's a wave. A righteous coast-to-coast yearning for Tax Cuts 'n' Torture.

But none of you seem to care anything about policy anyway, so long as Red Team wins and you get that resultant dopamine rush.

It's interesting how outside of BSG, no one I know could give a shit about this election. This is probably the right way to be. Nerds.