Clay Davis Memorial POLITICS THREAD

by **traderdave** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 14:54:04

Woody wrote:Sounds like someone needs to polish the lighthouse. Criminy

This post made reading the last 12 pages well worth it.

by **Werthless** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 14:54:24

dajafi wrote:Yeah, that was a rabid, bat $#@! crazy post alright. I suggested a linkage between economic climate and political outcomes as opposed to your "THE PEOPLE IZ RISING UP AGIN THA SOCIALISTS" point, and that "pundits" were simplistic in their analysis. Whack job!

If you don't like what I say or disagree with me, that's fine. But "over the top"?

Dude. You're out of control. :twisted:

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 14:55:34

I thought the first part about the torture and tax cuts and conservatives only caring about dopamine rushes and whatnot was the worse portion of that post. But your response is showing maybe you're taking this politics thread a bit too seriously, which was my original point. Unless angry, overwrought posts on a baseball message board are going to save America. In which case, carry on.

by **Werthless** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 14:57:56

Maybe it's time for a new thread.

by **dajafi** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 14:58:29

allentown wrote:He has also been hurt by pushing too quickly on a cap and trade approach to global warming. Not only is this something that he can take time to consider, but the Senate had trounced it once before, it is scary, really could wreck the economy, is certainly not something that can move in parallel with something else as big as healthcare reform. The smart thing was to just do the things that make sense even without global warming -- push for energy efficiency, push R&D on alternative energy, push natural gas and nuclear. Apart from the timing in the political and economic cycle, his push comes at a time when dishonesty on the part of both global warming scientists and sellers of carbon offsets have come to the fore. He couldn't expect the latter, but should have known that now is not the time for cap and trade and that cap and trade is inferior to other approaches like a carbon tax and renewable clean energy incentives, anyway.

This is probably true in part--certainly that cap and trade is politically difficult (and dubious as a policy solution IMO; just tax carbon)--but I just haven't seen much about cap and trade as some have asserted.

Then again, I missed the whole Jonathan Gruber thing when that came out, so maybe I have big blind spots.

by **dajafi** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 15:00:12

jerseyhoya wrote:I thought the first part about the torture and tax cuts and conservatives only caring about dopamine rushes and whatnot was the worse portion of that post.

Then that's the part you should have quoted 8-)

Seriously, that's a fair point. Even if I believe that--which at this point, regretfully, I kind of do--I probably shouldn't say it.

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