Clay Davis Memorial POLITICS THREAD

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jan 09, 2010 18:21:50


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Postby CalvinBall » Sat Jan 09, 2010 18:21:51

politicians are pretty moronic people in general.

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Postby VoxOrion » Sat Jan 09, 2010 23:37:30

After what Lott dealt with for suggesting that a racist coot would've saved us all or what not, Reid's gonna end up hanging from a burning cross and getting launched into space or something if this isn't fake.

Sike. He'll be fine (D).
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Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Jan 09, 2010 23:49:46

VoxOrion wrote:After what Lott dealt with for suggesting that a racist coot would've saved us all or what not, Reid's gonna end up hanging from a burning cross and getting launched into space or something if this isn't fake.

Sike. He'll be fine (D).


I dunno. He's not exactly in a position of strength, and he's not all that popular with the rank and file.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jan 10, 2010 04:39:10

So a poll came out with Brown up a point on Coakley. I don't think there's more than a 5-10% chance that the GOP picks up the seat, but it could legitimately end up close.

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Postby kopphanatic » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:05:53

jerseyhoya wrote:So a poll came out with Brown up a point on Coakley. I don't think there's more than a 5-10% chance that the GOP picks up the seat, but it could legitimately end up close.


Coakley hasn't been even been campaigning apparently. At all. That might explain why its so close.
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Postby traderdave » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:23:36

From the article above:

"Harry Reid called me today and apologized for an unfortunate comment reported today,” Obama said. “I accepted Harry's apology without question because I've known him for years, I've seen the passionate leadership he's shown on issues of social justice and I know what's in his heart. As far as I am concerned, the book is closed."

Two things about this - first, I love how easily politicians can get out of trouble. I say something like that in my office and I'm packing my desk before the day is out. Second, I would argue that comments like the one Reid and so many others have uttered do, in fact, reflect what is in their hearts.

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Postby dajafi » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:32:31

I think context is important on the Reid thing. As I understand it, the context is that he strongly backed Obama over Clinton, was "wowed by his rhetorical gifts," and thought that Obama's race would be an asset, not a detriment, in a Dem primary. This is kind of where he gets into trouble, because the strong implication is that if Obama looked and sounded like Wesley Snipes, he wouldn't have had this advantage--but to me this is more a comment on the electorate, and closer to Biden's campaign gaffe about Obama being "clean and well spoken," than to Trent Lott or George Allen with their years and years of thinly veiled racist remarks and actions.

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Postby allentown » Sun Jan 10, 2010 14:21:43

traderdave wrote:From the article above:

"Harry Reid called me today and apologized for an unfortunate comment reported today,” Obama said. “I accepted Harry's apology without question because I've known him for years, I've seen the passionate leadership he's shown on issues of social justice and I know what's in his heart. As far as I am concerned, the book is closed."

Two things about this - first, I love how easily politicians can get out of trouble. I say something like that in my office and I'm packing my desk before the day is out. Second, I would argue that comments like the one Reid and so many others have uttered do, in fact, reflect what is in their hearts.

I'm not sure Reid's heart is all that bad. He supported Obama at a time when most of his generation could not accept a black President. Then again, it was a primary of divided prejudices as many of his generation also had trouble accepting a female commander in chief.
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Postby Rococo4 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 16:11:29

kopphanatic wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:So a poll came out with Brown up a point on Coakley. I don't think there's more than a 5-10% chance that the GOP picks up the seat, but it could legitimately end up close.


Coakley hasn't been even been campaigning apparently. At all. That might explain why its so close.


I think the poll will snap the Dem machine there into action. I'd agree, about a 10% of Brown winning in the end.

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Postby pacino » Sun Jan 10, 2010 21:34:35

Failure.

President Obama set a new record last year for getting Congress to vote his way, clinching 96.7 percent of the votes on which he had clearly staked a position.
That was a bit less than 4 percentage points higher than the previous record, set by President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965, according to an annual study by Congressional Quarterly.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jan 10, 2010 22:48:33

Saint Elizabeth and the Ego Monster

Great read from NY Mag on the Edwards campaign

They could make a movie about this

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Postby dajafi » Sun Jan 10, 2010 23:13:30

jerseyhoya wrote:Saint Elizabeth and the Ego Monster

Great read from NY Mag on the Edwards campaign

They could make a movie about this


You have to believe somebody is thinking about this, and probably wish-casting it, as we speak. Planning to throw this in my gym reading for the week.

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Postby jeff2sf » Sun Jan 10, 2010 23:36:59

I'm reading this and two things occur to me:

1. We're pretty lucky this guy didn't win

2. The sources seem to be catty, self-important aides who weren't treated very nicely. And I'm sorry if a woman undergoing cancer treatment gets outraged that someone didn't take care of her and her husband's health care. It would stand to reason that you might want to make sure the leader is taken care of and further that as someone undergoing chemo, you might be pissed off that it wasn't.
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Postby drsmooth » Mon Jan 11, 2010 15:19:51

jeff2sf wrote:I'm reading this and two things occur to me:

1. We're pretty lucky this guy didn't win

2. The sources seem to be catty, self-important aides who weren't treated very nicely. And I'm sorry if a woman undergoing cancer treatment gets outraged that someone didn't take care of her and her husband's health care. It would stand to reason that you might want to make sure the leader is taken care of and further that as someone undergoing chemo, you might be pissed off that it wasn't.


I'm with you, J. 50 people & they had complications getting some kind of health coverage in place? A case like that for even the average group health broker - even one in South Carolina - would be like red meat. And somewhat surprisingly, SCBCBS (I'm assuming that's where there operations were based) is among the more innovative, aggressive blues plans in the country. I gotta believe they would have come up with something, even if no other insurer would bite.

Of course we don't have details on the span between the directive to go get some kind of health coverage and her outburst, but I'm prepared to give her a pass on being pissed about that.
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Postby The Nightman Cometh » Mon Jan 11, 2010 15:54:54

So Guantanamo isn't going to be closed any time soon now?
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Postby dajafi » Mon Jan 11, 2010 16:44:55

Blagojevich reverses self; now states he is not "blacker than Obama"

Goooood times.

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Postby traderdave » Mon Jan 11, 2010 17:11:32

dajafi wrote:Blagojevich reverses self; now states he is not "blacker than Obama"

Goooood times.


Anything from him about not actually being an idiot? Hey, that article about Edwards was pretty damn good; kinda makes me want to read the whole book.

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Postby Rococo4 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 17:58:53

The Nightman Cometh wrote:So Guantanamo isn't going to be closed any time soon now?


i dont know why we just dont keep sending these guys back to yemen...

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Postby The Nightman Cometh » Mon Jan 11, 2010 18:04:40

Well I think thats kind of a "My bad" thing on the whole denying of due process of law and the torture thing on our part.
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