jerseyhoya wrote:I will never understand the left's fascination with spotlighting every word that comes out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth.

and why the moderate republicans try to laugh it off


but the man has a serious audience so to ignore him is an error

jerseyhoya wrote:I will never understand the left's fascination with spotlighting every word that comes out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth.

Imagine how the right would react if Michael Moore had a daily radio show that, as Maroon Monsoon notes, millions listened to.

dajafi wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:I will never understand the left's fascination with spotlighting every word that comes out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth.

Imagine how the right would react if Michael Moore had a daily radio show that, as Maroon Monsoon notes, millions listened to.

And sitting presidents and vice presidents gave him exclusive interviews.

Rush makes almost defensible offensive comment. Left brings comment to light, expresses outrage. More people listen to Rush's show. More dollars go into Rush's pocket. Rush makes almost defensible offensive comment. Left brings comment to light, expresses outrage. More people listen to Rush's show. More dollars go into Rush's pocket. Rush makes almost defensible offensive comment. Left brings comment to light, expresses outrage. More people listen to Rush's show. More dollars go into Rush's pocket. Rush makes almost defensible offensive comment. Left brings comment to light, expresses outrage. More people listen to Rush's show. More dollars go into Rush's pocket. Rush makes almost defensible offensive comment. Left brings comment to light, expresses outrage. More people listen to Rush's show. More dollars go into Rush's pocket. Rush makes almost defensible offensive comment. Left brings comment to light, expresses outrage. More people listen to Rush's show. More dollars go into Rush's pocket.

Except much of the time they are only defensibile if you are a bigot so I don't see how the right could be okay with...

oh.

JH, just say it was a kind of crappy thing to say and move on.

You've shown/written that YOU'VE been emotionally affected by the tragedy, why would you want someone making light of that?

jeff2sf wrote:JH, just say it was a kind of crappy thing to say and move on.

You've shown/written that YOU'VE been emotionally affected by the tragedy, why would you want someone making light of that?

It was kind of a crappy thing to say. Is suggesting we shouldn't help out Haiti because we've wasted money there in the past due to it being corrupt pretty dumb? Yes. Are there better times to try and score points against the president? Absolutely. Was it even close to the ridiculous pact with the devil crap Pat Robertson came out with? No.

What's the most recent post on the front page of dailykos about the earthquake? This gem from some moron, who one can only assume was dropped on his/her head with regularity as a child.

There are people from all across the spectrum who have an inability to turn off the partisanship switch even when it's obvious to an asshole like me that it's not really the right time to be flinging potshots across the aisle. But by all means if harping on something a radio personality said makes you feel morally superior, go for it.

jerseyhoya wrote:What's the most recent post on the front page of dailykos about the earthquake? This gem from some moron, who one can only assume was dropped on his/her head with regularity as a child.

There are people from all across the spectrum who have an inability to turn off the partisanship switch even when it's obvious to an asshat like me that it's not really the right time to be flinging potshots across the aisle. But by all means if harping on something a radio personality said makes you feel morally superior, go for it.

I think you can probably see the difference between a diary writer on dailykos and someone with the media presence of Rush Limbaugh.

jerseyhoya wrote:
It was kind of a crappy thing to say. Is suggesting we shouldn't help out Haiti because we've wasted money there in the past due to it being corrupt pretty dumb? Yes. Are there better times to try and score points against the president? Absolutely. Was it even close to the ridiculous pact with the devil crap Pat Robertson came out with? No.

What's the most recent post on the front page of dailykos about the earthquake? This gem from some moron, who one can only assume was dropped on his/her head with regularity as a child.

There are people from all across the spectrum who have an inability to turn off the partisanship switch even when it's obvious to an asshat like me that it's not really the right time to be flinging potshots across the aisle. But by all means if harping on something a radio personality said makes you feel morally superior, go for it.

There's there's there's an an an echo echo echo in in in here here here

I actually thought that GWB should say something helpful on Haiti. But I can see a problem with that as well.

phdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:What's the most recent post on the front page of dailykos about the earthquake? This gem from some moron, who one can only assume was dropped on his/her head with regularity as a child.

There are people from all across the spectrum who have an inability to turn off the partisanship switch even when it's obvious to an asshat like me that it's not really the right time to be flinging potshots across the aisle. But by all means if harping on something a radio personality said makes you feel morally superior, go for it.

I think you can probably see the difference between a diary writer on dailykos and someone with the media presence of Rush Limbaugh.

I think you can probably see that has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

jerseyhoya wrote:

phdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:What's the most recent post on the front page of dailykos about the earthquake? This gem from some moron, who one can only assume was dropped on his/her head with regularity as a child.

There are people from all across the spectrum who have an inability to turn off the partisanship switch even when it's obvious to an asshat like me that it's not really the right time to be flinging potshots across the aisle. But by all means if harping on something a radio personality said makes you feel morally superior, go for it.

I think you can probably see the difference between a diary writer on dailykos and someone with the media presence of Rush Limbaugh.

I think you can probably see that has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

You overestimate my ability to understand the point you were making. I thought you were making a comparison between Rush and that diary writer. I guess I was wrong. What was the point?

TenuredVulture wrote:I actually thought that GWB should say something helpful on Haiti. But I can see a problem with that as well.

Why? Because of Katrina?

It might be embarrassing for him, but if it sends the message that saving lives and providing disaster relief is NOT a partisan issue--my understanding was that he'd do it with Clinton, as Clinton and his dad worked together for aid after the tsunami five years ago--what could possibly be wrong with that?

dajafi wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:I actually thought that GWB should say something helpful on Haiti. But I can see a problem with that as well.

Why? Because of Katrina?

It might be embarrassing for him, but if it sends the message that saving lives and providing disaster relief is NOT a partisan issue--my understanding was that he'd do it with Clinton, as Clinton and his dad worked together for aid after the tsunami five years ago--what could possibly be wrong with that?

I think the Katrina thing would result in people wrongly focusing on the messenger rather than the message. I still think he should go ahead and do something.

Can someone explain to me how a tax on health insurance plans is a good idea? Doesn't this basically mean that employers are going to shave their health care plans down to get below the tax and in the process screw the middle class?

I'm ignorant on this issue, but from what I've heard this sounds like a horrible idea.

phdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

phdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:What's the most recent post on the front page of dailykos about the earthquake? This gem from some moron, who one can only assume was dropped on his/her head with regularity as a child.

There are people from all across the spectrum who have an inability to turn off the partisanship switch even when it's obvious to an asshat like me that it's not really the right time to be flinging potshots across the aisle. But by all means if harping on something a radio personality said makes you feel morally superior, go for it.

I think you can probably see the difference between a diary writer on dailykos and someone with the media presence of Rush Limbaugh.

I think you can probably see that has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

You overestimate my ability to understand the point you were making. I thought you were making a comparison between Rush and that diary writer. I guess I was wrong. What was the point?

I said people from all across the political spectrum are capable of being inappropriately partisan. Since Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party, as we all know, I would have needed to get Obama on the record saying something nasty and partisan about the earthquake to find someone on par with Rush to make the perfect comparison. With his job being running the country not getting ratings for his radio show, that was unlikely. I had read the item from DailyKos earlier in the day. I thought it was phenomenally partisan and stupid. Aren't there only like a dozen people allowed to post on the front page of DailyKos? Of course this blogger doesn't carry the influence that Limbaugh does, but they are an opinion leader in the partisan left media.

I said I didn't understand the Rush thing, and it's pretty clear I'm never going to. I posted it in the politics thread rather than writing a rant in the Haiti thread because it was pissing me off.

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Mountainphan wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

Mountainphan wrote:

pacino wrote:I'm not sure what you are proposing here mountainphan. We don't have a division for future crime. They didn't do ANYTHING.

Unfortunately for your argument, many of "they" did and are doing something. I'm sorry the term "war" causes you so much discomfort, but at some point you're going to have to get used to the seriousness of this war/conflict/brouhaha/pick your term.

Serious people understand that a nation-state's resolution of its confrontations with non-state actors entail more complex responses than "KILL ALL 'EM TERRISTS!!1!"

Serious people also get concerned about the spectacle of the planet's most potent nation-state - potent theoretically because of the resilience of its conceptual underpinnings - continually behaving instead like a neurasthenic sexagenarian political hack from Wyoming.

Serious people also don't engage in garbled, non-sensical hyperbole at every turn. Seriously.

I can't help your deficiencies of vocabulary and rhetoric. You simply need to learn how to read better.

But you can help your's, so why not start there. Seriously.

PS - I read just fine. You're not worth reading with any seriousness most of the time.

jerseyhoya wrote:I said people from all across the political spectrum are capable of being inappropriately partisan. Since Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party, as we all know, I would have needed to get Obama on the record saying something nasty and partisan about the earthquake to find someone on par with Rush to make the perfect comparison. With his job being running the country not getting ratings for his radio show, that was unlikely. I had read the item from DailyKos earlier in the day. I thought it was phenomenally partisan and stupid. Aren't there only like a dozen people allowed to post on the front page of DailyKos? Of course this blogger doesn't carry the influence that Limbaugh does, but they are an opinion leader in the partisan left media.

Other than clicking on your link today, I haven't been to the Kos site in a long time. But my guess is that they also urged people to donate for relief, detailed some of the tragic aspects of the story, etc. If not in that piece, somewhere else on the front page. (I think you described it as "the most recent story about the earthquake," suggesting there were others earlier.)

Not being a Limbaugh listener or visitor to his website, maybe I'm wrong on this--I hope I am--but given his usual MO it would surprise me if the harsh partisan message were offered alongside an appeal to compassion or charity, or if he spent nearly as much time talking about the tragedy as taking rhetorical swipes at his usual objects of derision.

And that's my issue with him. The guy just seems like a straight up prick, a bad human being. Add in--and this is what's generally fascinating about Limbaugh during an Obama presidency--his deep racism, and it's something he shouldn't have opened his mouth about.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Can someone explain to me how a tax on health insurance plans is a good idea? Doesn't this basically mean that employers are going to shave their health care plans down to get below the tax and in the process screw the middle class?

I'm ignorant on this issue, but from what I've heard this sounds like a horrible idea.

take it to the Single Payer? thread.

in the meanwhile, think of it as more of a "reduce the tax break for plans that are absurdly generous" than a "new tax".

in any event, it is a teensy-tinesy media distraction amidst a host of more important health reform matters; don't lose sleep about it.

Mountainphan wrote:But you can help your's, so why not start there. Seriously.

PS - I read just fine. You're not worth reading with any seriousness most of the time.

it's "yours" not "your's"

no charge - this time

were you the kid with the banjo, or the shotgun?