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Postby kruker » Fri Jul 03, 2009 09:56:00

NYT article on urban agriculture

Like others in the so-called good-food movement, Allen, who is 60, asserts that our industrial food system is depleting soil, poisoning water, gobbling fossil fuels and stuffing us with bad calories. Like others, he advocates eating locally grown food. But to Allen, local doesn’t mean a rolling pasture or even a suburban garden: it means 14 greenhouses crammed onto two acres in a working-class neighborhood on Milwaukee’s northwest side, less than half a mile from the city’s largest public-housing project.

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And this is why Allen is so fond of his worms. When you’re producing a quarter of a million dollars’ worth of food in such a small space, soil fertility is everything. Without microbe- and nutrient-rich worm castings (poop, that is), Allen’s Growing Power farm couldn’t provide healthful food to 10,000 urbanites — through his on-farm retail store, in schools and restaurants, at farmers’ markets and in low-cost market baskets delivered to neighborhood pickup points. He couldn’t employ scores of people, some from the nearby housing project; continually train farmers in intensive polyculture; or convert millions of pounds of food waste into a version of black gold.

With seeds planted at quadruple density and nearly every inch of space maximized to generate exceptional bounty, Growing Power is an agricultural Mumbai, a supercity of upward-thrusting tendrils and duct-taped infrastructure. Allen pointed to five tiers of planters brimming with salad greens. “We’re growing in 25,000 pots,” he said. Ducking his 6-foot-7 frame under one of them, he pussyfooted down a leaf-crammed aisle. “We grow a thousand trays of sprouts a week; every square foot brings in $30.” He headed toward the in-ground fish tanks stocked with tens of thousands of tilapia and perch. Pumps send the dirty fish water up into beds of watercress, which filter pollutants and trickle the cleaner water back down to the fish — a symbiotic system called aquaponics. The watercress sells for $16 a pound; the fish fetch $6 apiece.

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If inside the greenhouse was Eden, outdoors was, as Allen explained on a drive through the neighborhood, “a food desert.” Scanning the liquor stores in the strip malls, he noted: “From the housing project, it’s more than three miles to the Pick’n Save. That’s a long way to go for groceries if you don’t have a car or can’t carry stuff. And the quality of the produce can be poor.” Fast-food joints and convenience stores selling highly processed, high-calorie foods, on the other hand, were locally abundant. “It’s a form of redlining,” Allen said. “We’ve got to change the system so everyone has safe, equitable access to healthy food.”

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Allen, too, has achieved a certain momentum for his efforts to bring the good-food movement to the inner city. In the last several years, he has become a darling of the foundation world. In 2005, he received a $100,000 Ford Foundation leadership grant. In 2008, the MacArthur Foundation honored Allen with a $500,000 “genius” award. And in May, the Kellogg Foundation gave Allen $400,000 to create jobs in urban agriculture.

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Of course, if rock picking or worm tending — either here or in a community garden — doesn’t attract his Milwaukee neighbors, it’s easy enough for them to order a market basket or shop at his retail store, which happens to sell fried pork skin as well as collard greens. “Culturally appropriate foods,” Allen calls them. And the doughnuts in his truck? “I’m no purist about food, and I don’t ask anyone else to be,” he said, laughing. “I work 17 hours a day; sometimes I need some sugar!”

This nondogmatic approach may be one of Allen’s most appealing qualities. His essential view is that people do the best they can: if they don’t have any better food choices than KFC, well, O.K. But let’s work on changing that. If they don’t know what to do with okra, Growing Power stands ready to help. And if their great-grandparents were sharecroppers and they have some bad feelings about the farming life, then Allen has something to offer there too: his personal example and workshops geared toward empowering minorities. “African-Americans need more help, and they’re often harder to work with because they’ve been abused and so forth,” Allen said. “But I can break through a lot of that very quickly because a lot of people of color are so proud, so happy to see me leading this kind of movement.”


Kid and those that have read Kunstler should love this. Plus, he's a UMiami guy. Some of you may not like that.
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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 14:44:25

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Sixty-nine percent of Americans support creation of a government-run health plan to compete with private insurance companies, a new poll found.


how many americans support higher taxes?



If you ask them that question, probably few. But if you ask if them if they'd rather save money overall, most of them would be on board. When most of the country is being offered the monopoly price for medical insurance, they can't afford higher taxes. But drive down the price of that insurance with some actual, you know, capitalism/competition, and suddenly it's a much better choice.

Right now, people have no choice. Pay the outrageous premiums driven by no competition or go without. It's the opposite of a free market -- where everyone has no choice and everything is expensive/inefficient to the country as a whole. Unfortunately, the GOP has done a very good job of branding universal healthcare as socialism and raising taxes, even though it would be cheaper in the long run.
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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:52:03

It appears Sarah Palin has resigned as Governor of Alaska, and will transfer power to the Lt Governor on July 25th, my wedding day.

I can't imagine she's doing this to run for president, since it's normal to run for office while finishing up a term at another position. Plus, opponents would then be able to say she doesn't finish commitments, which would tie in with her looking like a crazy person with poor judgement.

Weird, I wonder if it's a health issue or some major scandal is about to break.

Begin wild speculation, plz.
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Postby GrizzledVeteran » Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:54:45

Monkeyboy wrote:It appears Sarah Palin has resigned as Governor of Alaska, and will transfer power to the Lt Governor on July 25th, my wedding day.

I can't imagine she's doing this to run for president, since it's normal to run for office while finishing up a term at another position. Plus, opponents would then be able to say she doesn't finish commitments, which would tie in with her looking like a crazy person with poor judgement.

Weird, I wonder if it's a health issue or some major scandal is about to break.

Begin wild speculation, plz.


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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:57:46

What the hell?

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:59:14

Like what the fuck is she possibly doing? Just don't run for reelection. She was up in 2010.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Jul 03, 2009 16:08:59

7/25

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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 16:34:17

GrizzledVeteran wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:It appears Sarah Palin has resigned as Governor of Alaska, and will transfer power to the Lt Governor on July 25th, my wedding day.

I can't imagine she's doing this to run for president, since it's normal to run for office while finishing up a term at another position. Plus, opponents would then be able to say she doesn't finish commitments, which would tie in with her looking like a crazy person with poor judgement.

Weird, I wonder if it's a health issue or some major scandal is about to break.

Begin wild speculation, plz.


she's finally going to get her GED



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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 16:38:38

jerseyhoya wrote:Like what the $#@! is she possibly doing? Just don't run for reelection. She was up in 2010.



There has to be something else going on, right? Health issue, scandal about to break? She now says it's because she couldn't get anything done because of the "full-court press" harassing a great "point guard," so I'm leaning towards a scandal about to break.

If nothing's about to break, then it's just another example of her very poor judgement and readiness to do anything beyond Major of Wasilla.
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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 17:01:52

I'm not as attuned as some of you, but it's starting to look like something major is going to come out very shortly about Palin's decision to resign. Her twitter makes it sound like she was just planning on announcing that she wouldn't run for reelection, but now she's resigned and some people close to her are saying she's out of politics for good. The fact that she's blaming the media and this is all happening really fast makes it seem like a rash decision of necessity, rather than a planned political move.

Maybe she had an affair with Sanford. That guy can't seem to shut up about anything.

I hate to sound like a bad person, but there's practically no one on the national political scene that will stimulate schadenfreude in me like Palin. I hope it comes out that she was fucking chickens while her husband ran a dog-fighting ring and sold meth out of their livingroom.
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Postby kruker » Fri Jul 03, 2009 17:10:53

I'm sure it's going to be for a very good reason :lol:

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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2009 17:17:05

The beginning of her speech. Maybe she won't get that GED.



People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more important to me than our beloved Alaska. Serving her people is the greatest honor I could imagine.

I want Alaskans to grasp what can be in store for our state. We were purchased as a territory because a member of President Abe Lincoln's cabinet, William Seward, providentially saw in this great land, vast riches, beauty, strategic placement on the globe, and opportunity. He boldly looked "North to the Future". But he endured such ridicule and mocking for his vision for Alaska, remember the adversaries scoffed, calling this "Seward's Folly". Seward withstood such disdain as he chose the uncomfortable, unconventional, but RIGHT path to secure Alaska, so Alaska could help secure the United States.


People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more important to me than our beloved Alaska.



She goes on to say that she's resigning now because typically lame ducks travel around for fun on the public dime and don't bother to do anything to help their constituents. Uh, Sarah, you could keep your job and just not do those things. You're not required to travel for fun and avoid doing any hard work.
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Postby pacino » Fri Jul 03, 2009 18:16:08

did she kill a baby or something


she's just a pathetic joke
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Postby drsmooth » Fri Jul 03, 2009 18:55:54

I've got Dave Alvin's 4th of July on right now, early, in the ex-governor's honor
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Postby pacino » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:07:39

Wanna be a winner? Quit:

"Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out."
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Postby kruker » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:21:42

Economist primer on USA-Russia relationship and what needs to be accomplished by the President's visit

By engaging with Russia on nuclear questions and giving it the status it craves, of a quasi-superpower, America hopes to get traction on other issues, such as Iran and non-proliferation. And if Russia has enough at stake in its relationship with America, it may even decide that the cost of fighting another war in Georgia or destabilising the Crimea is simply too high.

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Postby Monkeyboy » Sat Jul 04, 2009 17:54:30

pacino wrote:Wanna be a winner? Quit:

"Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out."



up is down, left is right, adultery is a love's quest, cutting health insurance for children is family values, quitting is winning, working hard to overcome adversity is the loser's way. Ladies and gentlemen, the modern GOP. I'm almost annoyed that I wasted so many of my votes over the years on what would become this joke of a party.

Of course, now that the dems are in power, they'll probably move in the same direction, but at least there's still hope.
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Postby Monkeyboy » Sat Jul 04, 2009 17:56:04

and by the way, that quote of hers describes the life of most Americans, who do their jobs despite being treated like dirt by their employers and facing one struggle after another. She really is tone deaf.
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Postby drsmooth » Sat Jul 04, 2009 19:57:02

Monkeyboy wrote:and by the way, that quote of hers describes the life of most Americans, who do their jobs despite being treated like dirt by their employers and facing one struggle after another. She really is tone deaf.



b-b-b-but - the base luuuuuuvs her!!1!?
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Postby dajafi » Sun Jul 05, 2009 17:21:50

A quick thought about Palin:

Those few people trying to spin this positively for her, whether because they have some credibility at stake (Kristol) or because they see a pundit niche for contrarianism (Ambinder), are suggesting that she can spend the next 18-24 months building up chits with local Republican organizations and candidates and mastering issues before running in 2012. This strikes me as severely unlikely, given what we know about her: she doesn't do study or prep (read that Purdum piece, not even about last years campaign but in her two AK statewide runs), and--love of basketball analogies aside--she's just not a team player. In fact, she's probably the Allen Iverson of American politics.

Her best-case, I think, is a Fox talk show gig. And even that I'd give an O/U of eight months. She's nuts.

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