Obama Happyworld Politics Thread!

Postby Bakestar » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:13:22

Woody wrote:
Bakestar wrote:[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/us/politics/13apply.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin]Well, I guess I'm out.
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Is there anyone on this board who'd pass the sniff test?

Only the smallest details are excluded; traffic tickets carrying fines of less than $50 need not be reported, the application says. Applicants are asked whether they or anyone in their family owns a gun. They must include any e-mail that might embarrass the president-elect, along with any blog posts and links to their Facebook pages.

The application also asks applicants to “please list all aliases or ‘handles’ you have used to communicate on the Internet.”


"It says here that you're known for posting on internet lists and forums using the handle 'Woody', and that includes TYPING IN ALL CAPS the following phrase: 'I'D DIP MY BALLS IN IT'. Care to elaborate on that?"


And with this 'Bakestar' persona, what does that mean, 'It smells like bleach and dirty pennies when Wheels watches Reyes warm-up!'?
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Postby Bucky » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:20:09

jerseyhoya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

It appears Sarah Palin knows Africa is a continent.


Well this purports that the report was a hoax, but doesn't prove anything at all about Ms. Palin's knowledge of grade-school geography, now does it ?? :lol: :wink:

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Postby dajafi » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:26:52

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Take it, Woody.

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Postby Bakestar » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:29:34

You already did it, dajafi.
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Postby The Red Tornado » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:32:39

5 dollar footlongs?
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Postby pacino » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:39:11

jerseyhoya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

It appears Sarah Palin knows Africa is a continent.

You konw how I know you're Northeast Republican Elite (TM)? You cite the NY Times.

:D
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Postby dajafi » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:41:18

pacino wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

It appears Sarah Palin knows Africa is a continent.

You konw how I know you're Northeast Republican Elite (TM)? You cite the NY Times.

:D


Sometimes it occurs to me that our friend jh might be "purged" from the Republican Party for thought-crimes such as "gay marriage really isn't a big deal" and ideological deviations like, um, hanging out with us.

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Postby Bakestar » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:43:04

It's a big tent, jh.... JOIN US!!!

IT'S BETTER HERE!!!

IT'LL MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD...
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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:53:19

dajafi wrote:
pacino wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

It appears Sarah Palin knows Africa is a continent.

You konw how I know you're Northeast Republican Elite (TM)? You cite the NY Times.

:D


Sometimes it occurs to me that our friend jh might be "purged" from the Republican Party for thought-crimes such as "gay marriage really isn't a big deal" and ideological deviations like, um, hanging out with us.


Heh. Most of the professional party apparatus agrees with me that the religious right is bat shit crazy. At least if my interactions with them are representative.

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Postby dajafi » Thu Nov 13, 2008 13:57:57

jerseyhoya wrote:
dajafi wrote:
pacino wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

It appears Sarah Palin knows Africa is a continent.

You konw how I know you're Northeast Republican Elite (TM)? You cite the NY Times.

:D


Sometimes it occurs to me that our friend jh might be "purged" from the Republican Party for thought-crimes such as "gay marriage really isn't a big deal" and ideological deviations like, um, hanging out with us.


Heh. Most of the professional party apparatus agrees with me that the religious right is bat $#@! crazy. At least if my interactions with them are representative.


Who was it (Atwater?) that called them "the extra-chromosome crowd"?

I'm sure your sense is correct. Thing is, they'd all get purged too...

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Postby dajafi » Thu Nov 13, 2008 14:50:50

This might not be of interest to anyone but me and gr... but I'm really not sure I could love Michelle Rhee any more than I do:

Michelle Rhee, the hard-charging chancellor of the Washington public schools, thinks teacher tenure may be great for adults, those who go into teaching to get summer vacations and great health insurance, for instance. But it hurts children, she says, by making incompetent instructors harder to fire.

So Ms. Rhee has proposed spectacular raises of as much as $40,000, financed by private foundations, for teachers willing to give up tenure.
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LMs. Rhee has not proposed abolishing tenure outright. Under her proposal, each teacher would choose between two compensation plans, one called green and the other red. Pay for teachers in the green plan would rise spectacularly, nearly doubling by 2010. But they would need to give up tenure for a year, after which they would need a principal’s recommendation or face dismissal.
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In an interview, Ms. Rhee said she considered tenure outmoded.

“Tenure is the holy grail of teacher unions,” she said, “but has no educational value for kids; it only benefits adults. If we can put veteran teachers who have tenure in a position where they don’t have it, that would help us to radically increase our teacher quality. And maybe other districts would try it, too.”

Ms. Rhee has significant public backing for her efforts to improve this district of 46,000 students, one of the nation’s worst-performing. Both presidential candidates lined up behind her in their final debate last month, with Senator Barack Obama calling her Washington’s “wonderful new superintendent.”


Emphasis mine. I hope Obama finds a way to support her... though I don't think he's that brave, sadly. Rumor I heard at one point was that she was under consideration for Secretary of Education, but I'd rather see her stick in DC and win her war there, maybe joining the administration later on.

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Postby pacino » Thu Nov 13, 2008 15:12:30

I don't think anyone here's mentioned it yet, but one of my big bosses just died, Lt. Governor Catherin Baker Knoll, due to cancer. Condolences to her family
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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Nov 13, 2008 15:35:52

pacino wrote:I don't think anyone here's mentioned it yet, but one of my big bosses just died, Lt. Governor Catherin Baker Knoll, due to cancer. Condolences to her family

Saw it mentioned in the RIP thread.
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Postby The Red Tornado » Fri Nov 14, 2008 09:59:14

not a photoshop (taken right from the white house site)-

W and his posse!


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Postby Bakestar » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:56:05

I really don't know why Hillary Clinton would want the Secretary of State post. If she craves the Presidency (distinct possibility, and she'll be in her late 60s come 2012), accepting a cabinet post would probably put an end to that. And for a job with a four year term (Secretaries of State traditionally turn over for the second term if the Prez is re-elected, no?). And she's pretty much guaranteed her current Senate seat for life, if she wants it.

It all just seems strange to me. Seems like it'd be a better job for her husband.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:47:11

Maybe she's realizing she'll never be president.

Or she just wants to move up in the order of succession.

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Postby dajafi » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:51:04

It's a big job that offers mammoth ego gratification and a chance to be enormously influential. Granted, she wouldn't be the first, or even second, lady SoS. But I think it's reasonable to believe she'd have a larger impact than Albright or Rice did.

If you believe that Hillary isn't the political animal that Bill is, as I sort of do, it makes a lot of sense. As for Obama, the advantage for him is that it gets her out of the Senate, where she could (and maybe would) do a ton of mischief: see here.

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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:52:35

I'm not arguing the reality of it, but why isn't SoS considered a good stepping stone/experience for the big chair? I would think they'd get a good taste of the President's responsibilities and a ton of foreign affairs experience that people love.

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Postby jeff2sf » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:55:39

Ok, I'll say it...

If we wanted a bunch of ex-Clinton staffers leading the transition, being involved on the White House team, and potentially filling up the Cabinet, why didn't we just vote for Clinton?
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Postby Bakestar » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:08:38

dajafi wrote:It's a big job that offers mammoth ego gratification and a chance to be enormously influential. Granted, she wouldn't be the first, or even second, lady SoS. But I think it's reasonable to believe she'd have a larger impact than Albright or Rice did.

If you believe that Hillary isn't the political animal that Bill is, as I sort of do, it makes a lot of sense. As for Obama, the advantage for him is that it gets her out of the Senate, where she could (and maybe would) do a ton of mischief: see here.


That article raises some good points that I barely thought about, and owing to my age/unawareness at the time, I can't really remember what effect Kennedy had on Carter or Kerrey had on Clinton, but I don't really remember McCain doing anything more than offering token resistance to Bush before basically rubberstamping everything.

The Clintons do certainly have the world's ear, however.
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