Just said it was a sucky time to be in charge. Sorry to start a little fight between posters.

On the upside, oil is down to about 96 bucks a barrel.

CalvinBall wrote:Just said it was a sucky time to be in charge. Sorry to start a little fight between posters.

FWIW I read it that way.

jerseyhoya wrote:How was his response to 9/11 an epic fail? Also, you're presumably mostly talking about his decision to invade Iraq, not his response, since it was his own action.

You're blaming Bush because that's a fun sport.

yeah lets just go ahead and mash 9/11 and the war in iraq together as a cause and effect in bush's brain. maybe "war on terror" would be the more appropriate item to list in his failed responses to big events that took place in his term.

i wont be one of those bush-shoulda-seen-it-coming or listened to the warnings guys, but there are plenty enough of those guys around to argue with...

blaming bush is a fun sport, you're right. it's also so incredibly easy.

i think the initial post was just sort of a "wow.. another disaster in bush's term." i tend to agree with that "wow". and id say its tough to argue that he responded to any of these disasters well.

VoxOrion wrote:

Woody wrote:Is it true that this is all the Democrats' fault because they forced these companies to have to give loans to poor minorities that didn't otherwise deserve them? This is what some of my racist republican friends are saying, while drunk.

I've read by less drunk and racist authors that this is part of it, but they then go in and say that the banks went ape-$#@! once they got used to being able to do it and the blame can't really be laid squarely on one or the other chicken and egg eh Woody?

Let the record reflect once and for all that Vox reads racist websites! And I'll vote egg, since it's closest in appearance to a skinhead.

LESS DRUNK AND RACIST

or

Hey, it was just a Ron Paul blog!

VoxOrion wrote:

Woody wrote:Is it true that this is all the Democrats' fault because they forced these companies to have to give loans to poor minorities that didn't otherwise deserve them? This is what some of my racist republican friends are saying, while drunk.

I've read by less drunk and racist authors that this is part of it, but they then go in and say that the banks went ape-$#@! once they got used to being able to do it and the blame can't really be laid squarely on one or the other chicken and egg eh Woody?

Without much knowledge of the details, I could buy that this describes some chunk of the "bad risk" lending that did so much to put us in this mess.

But one problem with this concept as a partisan attack is that I remember how eager Republicans were to make the "largest increase in minority homeownership ever ZOMG BUSH DOES CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE SEE!" in, say, 2004 and 2005. As usual, there's blame to go around.

TenuredVulture wrote:On the upside, oil is down to about 96 bucks a barrel.

Free gas soon? (except for Atlanta and Charlotte)

Are there lots of poor minorities in 3500 sq foot houses?

TenuredVulture wrote:Are there lots of poor minorities in 3500 sq foot houses?

According to Reggie White, yes. You can fit a ton of them in there.

i think its funny that the one person flipping out the most about this is the rara republicans guy.

mpmcgraw wrote:i think its funny that the one person flipping out the most about this is the rara republicans guy.

But he's (I think admittedly, at least his opponents say so) not a conservative or a liberal, so it's bound to be confusing.

VoxOrion wrote:

mpmcgraw wrote:i think its funny that the one person flipping out the most about this is the rara republicans guy.

But he's (I think admittedly, at least his opponents say so) not a conservative or a liberal, so it's bound to be confusing.

And, he's a real inside the beltway type, not a pork rind eatin, church goin, deer shootin real Republican.

TenuredVulture wrote:

VoxOrion wrote:

mpmcgraw wrote:i think its funny that the one person flipping out the most about this is the rara republicans guy.

But he's (I think admittedly, at least his opponents say so) not a conservative or a liberal, so it's bound to be confusing.

And, he's a real inside the beltway type, not a pork rind eatin, church goin, deer shootin real Republican.

He'd kick Palin out of bed for eating crackers.

One possible downside--Congress will consider all manner of really dumb stuff, like a 15k homebuyer tax credit being pushed by the American Homebuilders Association to try to stimulate the economy out of recession.

VoxOrion wrote:

mpmcgraw wrote:i think its funny that the one person flipping out the most about this is the rara republicans guy.

But he's (I think admittedly, at least his opponents say so) not a conservative or a liberal, so it's bound to be confusing.

I'm conservative, but I'm not dogmatic. Sometimes problems require non ideological solutions. When a lot of people I trust who are a lot smarter and better informed on issues agree on something, I like to see that something happen. And I really hate to see it stopped because a whole lot of people who don't know shit about anything get in the way.

TenuredVulture wrote:One possible downside--Congress will consider all manner of really dumb stuff, like a 15k homebuyer tax credit being pushed by the American Homebuilders Association to try to stimulate the economy out of recession.

HA - I have Hannity on AND NO ITS NOT ON PURPOSE I CAN'T STAND HIM and as I read your post he's saying "Next they're going to pass some kind of stupid Baby Bond bill and it'll cost.... "

What you said but not about homebuyers.

The AHA bill, alas, will probably be supported by the same reglar folks who defeated the Wall Street bailout.

Interesting Business Week Article on Government Bailouts

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