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by **TenuredVulture** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:29:09

On Carlin, while his old stuff was actually quite good, it's unlikely that stand-up in general is going to seem as good 35 years later. When Jerry Seinfeld dies, people will have the same kind of debate. So, if you're 25 years old, it's unlikely that you're going to get Carlin.

Which stand up comic remain relevant for any length of time? Steve Martin? Andy Kaufman? Well, no. Robin Williams? Chris Rock? Not especially. Carrot Top?

by **Bakestar** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:36:51

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't mean to disrespect the dead or anything, but it's like Jeff Koons just died and everyone is calling him the best artist of the 20th Century.

Your analogy fails at the outset; Carlin has been lionized and cited as a definitive influence by virtually every major stand-up comic for decades.

by **CrashburnAlley** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:43:01

Houshphandzadeh wrote:sorry, not true, or even close

Can you find a youtube clip or something that's even good?

I don't think he's ever had a bad joke. But here are a few of my favorites:

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=3PiZSFIVFiU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0[/youtube]

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't mean to disrespect the dead or anything, but it's like Jeff Koons just died and everyone is calling him the best artist of the 20th Century.

Well, I've been saying this for a while.

by **TenuredVulture** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:45:35

That lawn isn't going to mow itself, is it.

by **MrsVox** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 14:05:33

Bucky wrote:
Woody wrote:That's the longest I've slept since immediate post-college i think

Better do that often right now, because in a couple months you won't be able to do that for a lot of years.

It depends -- I let Vox sleep in on weekends, because he stays up later than I do. But then he'll take over and let me nap (I just got up from a two-hour nap).

The best thing is to decide ahead of time who gets to sleep in the night before.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 14:20:02

Bakestar wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't mean to disrespect the dead or anything, but it's like Jeff Koons just died and everyone is calling him the best artist of the 20th Century.

Your analogy fails at the outset; Carlin has been lionized and cited as a definitive influence by virtually every major stand-up comic for decades.

I don't really see how that makes it a bad analogy. Koons is a pretty big deal.

by **Bakestar** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 14:31:46

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
Bakestar wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't mean to disrespect the dead or anything, but it's like Jeff Koons just died and everyone is calling him the best artist of the 20th Century.

Your analogy fails at the outset; Carlin has been lionized and cited as a definitive influence by virtually every major stand-up comic for decades.

I don't really see how that makes it a bad analogy. Koons is a pretty big deal.

But not the touchstone that Carlin is. That Comedy Central "Top 100 Stand-Ups" list from a couple years back had Carlin at #2 (behind only Pryor). Agree or disagree, but it certainly shows the esteem he was held in by his peers. It's not like he's just NOW being lionized because he's dead.

If Pryor = Picasso, then Carlin = DeKoonig or something. Koons is Bobcat Goldthwait.

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 14:34:37

I guess TV is on to something. Stand-up just isn't that great.

by **td11** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 14:50:15

good haircut today.

by **Pedro Rosa** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 14:54:57

favorite scene in Pollack.....Time magazine photographer has Thanksgiving dinner with Pollack and friends....Pollack is drunk...at the table he mumbles to the photographer, "I'm not the phony, you're the phony - I'm not the phony, you're the phony - I'm not the phony- you're the phony....he gets progressively louder until he finally explodes and flips over the table full of food ruining dinner for everyone.

by **CrashburnAlley** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 15:04:01

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I guess TV is on to something. Stand-up just isn't that great.

Percentage-wise, it's awful, but there are still a few good ones out there. Louis C.K., Bill Maher, Jim Norton, Doug Stanhope, Louis Katz are some good stand-up comedians. Maher hasn't had an HBO stand-up special in a couple years, though.

by **td11** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 15:04:35

dude. chappelle.

by **philliesphhan** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 15:09:51

td11 wrote:dude. chappelle.

by **CrashburnAlley** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 15:29:13

td11 wrote:dude. chappelle.

Oh yeah, that guy.

by **TenuredVulture** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 16:49:01

CrashburnAlley wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:I guess TV is on to something. Stand-up just isn't that great.

Percentage-wise, it's awful, but there are still a few good ones out there. Louis C.K., Bill Maher, Jim Norton, Doug Stanhope, Louis Katz are some good stand-up comedians. Maher hasn't had an HBO stand-up special in a couple years, though.

That's not what I said. But stand up comedy is most often a reflection of its times.

by **TenuredVulture** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 17:02:56

Why don't ears have bones?

by **td11** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 17:04:17

evolutionary advantage of some sort, probably. there are tiny little bones in your inner ear.

by **TenuredVulture** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 17:14:29

td11 wrote:evolutionary advantage of some sort, probably. there are tiny little bones in your inner ear.

But how precisely do boneless ears confer an evolutionary advantage? Since no mammals have boned ears, you must be correct.

by **smitty** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 17:19:36

TenuredVulture wrote:
td11 wrote:evolutionary advantage of some sort, probably. there are tiny little bones in your inner ear.

But how precisely do boneless ears confer an evolutionary advantage? Since no mammals have boned ears, you must be correct.

All the animals with bony ears died off three million years ago. They couldn't hear anything coming. The last one got run over by a train I think.

by **Phight On!** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 17:23:01

It's been a rough 3 days and there weren't really many drugs or alcohol involved. Honestly I wouldn't know where to even start so we'll leave it that.

Last night was the only recent Phils game that I even vaguely remember and I'd rather come up one run short than one wipe short.

Now I get why Steagles shaves his ass. I'm not sure how I missed his sexual orientation until today.

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