dajafi wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:I like the ad, but that background music... ugh. Question for jerseyhoya: why do all political ads use that treacly crap?

Most political ad people aren't all that creative, and they don't like going outside the box, especially in positive spots. That's how it's done, so that's how you do it.

Thanks. So you're basically saying "inertia"... I can buy that. It just strikes me as odd that campaigns (for both parties, near as I can tell) invest so frickin' much money in these things, yet don't even experiment with different atmospherics to see if something else (silence, marching bands, smooth jazz, thrash, hip-hop) might boost response. Or is it that they do, and those things don't play as well as the treacle?

In many cases, the production cycle for making an ad is very short--an ad can go from conception to on the air in less than 48 hours. It was a great scene in The War Room where Carville and Stephenapolous come up with an idea for an ad, and it was going to be made the next day, and on the air shortly after that, and Carville was still frustrated with how long it was taking.

dajafi wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

dajafi wrote:I like the ad, but that background music... ugh. Question for jerseyhoya: why do all political ads use that treacly crap?

Most political ad people aren't all that creative, and they don't like going outside the box, especially in positive spots. That's how it's done, so that's how you do it.

Thanks. So you're basically saying "inertia"... I can buy that. It just strikes me as odd that campaigns (for both parties, near as I can tell) invest so frickin' much money in these things, yet don't even experiment with different atmospherics to see if something else (silence, marching bands, smooth jazz, thrash, hip-hop) might boost response. Or is it that they do, and those things don't play as well as the treacle?

I don't know if the parties experiment with it. I imagine they do. There are some smart people in the field, and something like that would probably have occurred to one of them.

Speaking from my own experiences, we didn't run that many positive ads, and those that we did run were mostly either the candidate speaking directly to camera (so minimal background music was used) or biographical spots with a voiceover talent speaking, not the candidate, so the music used in the Obama spot would have been way over the top.

The music was often a topic of conversation in the office, and they'd often try a half dozen different options before settling on one, but they were usually all within the typical political music genre.

DC Madam dead

Body believed to be Deborah Jeane Palfrey found at her mom's in a trailer park in Tarpon Springs FL. Apparent suicide, as a suicide note was found.

pacino wrote:I thought this was interesting. The quotes:

The remarks came during an Appropriations Committee hearing in Harrisburg on a bill that would define marriage as between a man and a woman – a measure Fumo opposes. "What you are advocating here is that we take away the rights of a minority. And I don't think that's right," Fumo told Gilbert Coleman, Jr., senior pastor of Freedom Christian Bible Fellowship in Philadelphia, during the hearing. ". . . If we introduced a bill on slavery, it might pass. That doesn't make it right."

"I doubt that sir," responded Coleman, who testified in support of the measure.

"Oh, don't bet on it in this General Assembly," the Philadelphia Democrat shot back. "I know some people up here, especially on a secret ballot, it would be almost unanimous."

Fumo's analgoy may be off-base, but his underlying point is indeed correct. We aren't given 'rights' by the government. In this case it looks like the government simply doesn't want to recognize certain rights for certain sects of people...such as the freedom of well, life, for slaves. There's also no real reason beyond 'religious concerns' to bar homosexuals from receiving civil unions like straight people, as they have no less right to be together. However, governments around the nation seem intent on not recognizing those rights.

FWIW, Fumo said he was exaggerating to make a point. The pastor was there to testify about how much gays marrying would break down society at large and how much damage it would do to the city of Philadelphia and the state of Pennsylvania. Factories would blow up, people would kill each other, drivers would run into one another, and bubble gum would go unchewed.

No one care here, I guess, but here were the pastor's comments before all this:

Coleman said America has lost its moral compass since the church was taken out of government and schools, and he went on to say legalizing marriages other than heterosexual unions would erode a "foundational pillar" of this country.

"This nation finds no problem in abandoning its beliefs and morals to conform to the wants and desires of a few people that believe we should throw away the foundation and opt for a new one," Coleman said. "America was established on biblical principles that anchored and governed this nation until government decided that the Bible and its teachings are unconstitutional; thus we began a downward spiral. …

Bill Clinton's a dick:

Former President Bill Clinton was in West Virginia on his wife's behalf. In Clarksburg, he called her a scrapper and contrasted her appeal among working-class voters with the elitists he said support Obama.

"The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it's by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules," he said. "In West Virginia and Arkansas, we know that when we see it."

Right. Unless you're caught getting a blow job from the daughter of one of those elitists, and you need the rest of the them to form Moveon.org and save your fat sex-addicted ass from getting convicted by the Senate. Then they're the greatest!

The VRWC(TM) has infiltrated the schools and programmed our children!!!

Kierra Bell, Eighth Grader, lectures Rep. John Conyers's (D-Mich.) wife about her childish behavior on Detroit's City Council:

Kierra Bell, Eighth Grader: But you're an adult. We have to look up to you.

Conyers: Absolutely.

Bell: We're looking on TV, and like — this is an adult, calling another adult "Shrek?" That's something a second-grader would do.

Conyers: And so at school, you've never done that? You've never said anything that you shouldn't have said inappropriately?

Bell: We are kids, we're children...

Conyers: That's not my question, though. Have you ever done that?

Bell: I said "yes."

Conyers: All right. So, and you did that out of frustration, also, right?

Bell: Yes.

Conyers: And so we're all human, right?


Bell: We're human, but you have to know your boundaries. He's the president...of the City Council.

Conyers: And so do you think that just because someone is the president, they have a right not to allow other other people to be heard?

Bell: They are allowed to let other people be heard, but not in a disrespectful way

Conyers: Okay. And to me, he was being disrespectful.

Bell: He was, but you didn't have to call him a name.

Conyers: But now you're telling me what I should have or should not have done.


Bell: You are an adult, you have that choice.

Conyers: And everybody has choices.

Bell: But sometimes, people have to think before they act.

Conyers: Okay, well I'm not going to be combative with you, young lady...

Owned by an 8th grader

philliesphhan wrote:Owned by an 8th grader

totally, and further, she's not concillatory at all... just tried to defend her actions. doesn't matter what she thinks really, but when talking to a sharp 8th grader, say, "i'm sorry, i acted inappropriately and made a mistake..." that's all... then move on... people are so ridiculous sometimes...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiogXT9xZBQ[/youtube]

about 2:30 in

The video starts with the meeting where she said "Shrek" though.

I'd vote for Kiera in November

You haven't lived till you've seen part two...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxiGdwngNY&feature=related[/youtube]

Oh my lord

Zoinks

Special election in LA-06 mini preview.

Don Cazayoux (D) vs. Woody Jenkins (R) to replace retiring GOP Rep. Richard Baker.

Polls: Cazayoux has had a small, consistent lead in public and released private polling.

The storylines if the Democrat wins: 1) The Republican brand is trash even in the deep South.
2) The Democrats continue to recruit top notch candidates who fit the district.
3) The Obama/Pelosi linking attacks didn't work, especially if Cazayoux wins by 5%+.

The excuses if the Democrat wins: 1) The Republicans chose a terrible candidate again.
2) It's a low turnout special election that the Republicans have a decent chance of getting back in November.

The storylines if the Republican wins: 1) Barack Obama's name is poisonous in parts of the country.
2) The black Democratic state legislator who lost the primary caused the loss by imploring his supporters to abstain.
3) GOP outside groups (Club for Growth and Freedom's Watch) made up for the NRCC and candidate having terrible fundraising.

The excuses if the Republican wins: 1) The black Democratic state legislator who lost the primary caused the loss by imploring his supporters to abstain.
2) Bush won 59% of the vote here, why the hell should we have been favored?
3) GOP outside groups illegally coordinated with the committees and campaign.

And all are fairly legit except the very last one. This is a big election, polls close at 9 PM Eastern.

The results can be followed here: http://electionresults.sos.louisiana.gov/050308state.htm Certainly will be followed on Kos as well.

• Yesterday Hillary Clinton said she was betting on the filly, Eight Belles, to win, place and show.

She left out, "and die."

jerseyhoya wrote:Special election in LA-06 mini preview.

Don Cazayoux (D) vs. Woody Jenkins (R) to replace retiring GOP Rep. Richard Baker.

Polls: Cazayoux has had a small, consistent lead in public and released private polling.

The storylines if the Democrat wins: 1) The Republican brand is trash even in the deep South.
2) The Democrats continue to recruit top notch candidates who fit the district.
3) The Obama/Pelosi linking attacks didn't work, especially if Cazayoux wins by 5%+.

The excuses if the Democrat wins: 1) The Republicans chose a terrible candidate again.
2) It's a low turnout special election that the Republicans have a decent chance of getting back in November.

The storylines if the Republican wins: 1) Barack Obama's name is poisonous in parts of the country.
2) The black Democratic state legislator who lost the primary caused the loss by imploring his supporters to abstain.
3) GOP outside groups (Club for Growth and Freedom's Watch) made up for the NRCC and candidate having terrible fundraising.

The excuses if the Republican wins: 1) The black Democratic state legislator who lost the primary caused the loss by imploring his supporters to abstain.
2) Bush won 59% of the vote here, why the hell should we have been favored?
3) GOP outside groups illegally coordinated with the committees and campaign.

And all are fairly legit except the very last one. This is a big election, polls close at 9 PM Eastern.

The results can be followed here: http://electionresults.sos.louisiana.gov/050308state.htm Certainly will be followed on Kos as well.

Everything's a bit funky in LA right now--lots of NO Dems scattered in other parts of the state. That will be part of the story if the Dem wins. But really, the key stat is 59% Bush.

OBAMA SWAMPS IN GUAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!


TIME TO DROP OUT LIL LADY!!!!!

The seven vote landslide.

jerseyhoya wrote:

• Yesterday Hillary Clinton said she was betting on the filly, Eight Belles, to win, place and show.

She left out, "and die."

That's just wrong

It. Is. A. HORSE.

Careful, the Barbaro Gang will get you.