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by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:03:14

CNN Exit Poll here:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/index.html#PADEM

Clinton won women by 11%, Obama won men by 6% (if this thing is to be believed). Same thing Drudge had.

52-48 for Clinton is terrible. Though hopefully she's dumb enough to keep running.

by **The Red Tornado** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:46:47

I think the important part that everyone is missing is that Obama has 40 million whereas Hillary is working iwth debt right now. I think she bows out soon due to money woes.

by **momadance** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:48:26

The Red Tornado wrote:I think the important part that everyone is missing is that Obama has 40 million whereas Hillary is working iwth debt right now. I think she bows out soon due to money woes.

She'll start robbing banks if she has to.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:50:11

She's not in that much debt. She can keep running for as long as she want.

Obama's been outspending her 3-1 or whatever for a couple of months now. She's been doing better since she's been broke.

by **The Red Tornado** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:50:20

MSNBC just called it for Hillary

by **momadance** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:52:28

Paul Begala just declared his forehead the winner.

by **momadance** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:55:19

Obama is currently ahead on CNN.

by **The Red Tornado** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:56:45

momadance wrote:Obama is currently ahead on CNN.

??

I just looked and he's at 47% just like on msnbc

by **Bucky** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:58:13

that's why he said CNN i guess

by **momadance** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:58:22

The Red Tornado wrote:
momadance wrote:Obama is currently ahead on CNN.

??

I just looked and he's at 47% just like on msnbc

Looks like they didn't update the ticker, but they just had 12% of the vote reporting and Obama up by 4%. Unless they screwed up. But they had Obama at 54%.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 20:59:41

I don't think Obama's been ahead yet.

Unless maybe you just saw a county or something.

by **momadance** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:01:21

jerseyhoya wrote:I don't think Obama's been ahead yet.

Unless maybe you just saw a county or something.

It could have been a county and I'm just retarded.

by **Bakestar** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:02:25

The SNL "Superfans" are playing on one of the screens behind Buchanan, Maddow, etc., on MSNBC.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:07:36

31% of Luzerne County (Wilkes Barre) is cancelling out 25% of Philadelphia. I don't think that's how Obama drew it up. Either Northeast Philly is coming in fast compared to the rest of the city, or Obama's gonna lose the state by more than 4%.

Nothing yet from any of the burbs.

by **The Red Tornado** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:12:56

jerseyhoya wrote:
Nothing yet from any of the burbs.

[PTK] Hillary supporters havent had enough time to fix the vote in the burbs yet...[/PTK]

by **VoxOrion** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:31:10

Does anyone else think that all this business about how large her margin is is just a ploy by news networks etc to keep people tuned in for what has essentially been a given and isn't actually news at this point anyway?

I mean - what more do you need? Hillary won PA. Now find something else to read or watch till next time.

by **Bakestar** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:37:09

VoxOrion wrote:Does anyone else think that all this business about how large her margin is is just a ploy by news networks etc to keep people tuned in for what has essentially been a given and isn't actually news at this point anyway?

I mean - what more do you need? Hillary won PA. Now find something else to read or watch till next time.

Margin is everything. Clinton needs/needed to THUMP Obama by 20% or so to really make a meaningful dent in his delegate lead. Her failure/success at doing so is the ENTIRE story tonight.

by **Bucky** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:42:31

For us eejits, it's not really about winning the state (i.e. popular vote), but what percentage of the state (ergo delegates), correct???

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:43:18

Not true. A very real part of the story is more than half of the Democratic base in one of the three or four most important states electorally in the whole country prefers someone who is not going to be the nominee of their party.

Edit - Re: Bakestar's point.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 21:47:09

So what are we looking at here? 53.3-46.7%?

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