Old and busted politics thread

Postby Shore » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:24:49

See.. only the Democrats could POSSIBLY screw up this election, as only they could possibly have screwed up 2004.

As I've said before, if you can't run a successful campain against Bush in 2004, you can't run my country.

If you can't nominate the right candidate, and you lose to the "winner" of the three stooges...

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Postby dajafi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:25:30

The Red Tornado wrote:has anyone locked the medicine cabinet at dajafi's house yet?


No, I'm good. Obama's won 11 states, he's actually leading in delegates, the map gets better from here, and I don't even have the anti-Clinton thing going anymore.

As much.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying our thread here but I wonder if the fact that there seems to be not a single Clinton person (Stuey?) tags us all as deeply weird. Maybe it's that we're a sausage factory.

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Postby Shore » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:27:07

dajafi wrote:
The Red Tornado wrote:has anyone locked the medicine cabinet at dajafi's house yet?


No, I'm good. Obama's won 11 states, he's actually leading in delegates, the map gets better from here, and I don't even have the anti-Clinton thing going anymore.

As much.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying our thread here but I wonder if the fact that there seems to be not a single Clinton person (Stuey?) tags us all as deeply weird. Maybe it's that we're a sausage factory.


Or maybe we're all under 60.

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Postby VoxOrion » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:27:23

Or maybe Hill is just evil and we're all to smart for that.

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Postby Macho Row » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:27:45

Not counting California, which may end up basically a 50-50 split, MSNBC says Obama will lead the delegate count with roughly 590 to 540 for HRC.
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:28:35

I'd prefer Obama but would be ok with Clinton. Her personality is just fine.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:28:45

Macho Row wrote:Not counting California, which may end up basically a 50-50 split, MSNBC says Obama will lead the delegate count with roughly 590 to 540 for HRC.

Does that include super delegates?

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Postby dajafi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:28:49

phuturephillies wrote:I'm pro-Bloomberg. Wake me when he enters the race.


Bloomberg's too good for our country. He's basically the more ethnic/interesting Romney: great manager, real-world success (much more so than Romney as Bloomberg actually created value in the private sector rather than stripped companies like an Armani marauder). Other difference is that Bloomberg's into sex, drugs and the arts.

That I love the guy and detest The Mitt probably just shows that I'm as dumb as every other American voter.

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Postby meatball » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:28:56

Macho Row wrote:Not counting California, which may end up basically a 50-50 split, MSNBC says Obama will lead the delegate count with roughly 590 to 540 for HRC.


He ended up getting 92 out of New York, which was pretty big, considering.

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Postby dajafi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:30:03

Shore wrote:
dajafi wrote:
The Red Tornado wrote:has anyone locked the medicine cabinet at dajafi's house yet?


No, I'm good. Obama's won 11 states, he's actually leading in delegates, the map gets better from here, and I don't even have the anti-Clinton thing going anymore.

As much.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying our thread here but I wonder if the fact that there seems to be not a single Clinton person (Stuey?) tags us all as deeply weird. Maybe it's that we're a sausage factory.


Or maybe we're all under 60.


Good point.

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Postby Macho Row » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:31:18

jerseyhoya wrote:
Macho Row wrote:Not counting California, which may end up basically a 50-50 split, MSNBC says Obama will lead the delegate count with roughly 590 to 540 for HRC.

Does that include super delegates?


Don't think so. They didn't specify either way, but I think they implied that those totals were the delegates won that will be pledged to the specific candidate.

Here's one for everyone. If California goes for HRC as expected, does Edwards thwart the momentum again by endorsing Obama sometime in the next few days?
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Postby The Red Tornado » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:31:38

Maybe you are all not racists?
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Postby VoxOrion » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:32:19

I'm so conflicted.

I can't stand McCain, I've had it with him.

I can't stand Hillary and I'm rooting against her and rooting for Obama.

But I don't really want him to be president either.

This might just be the estrogen talking, but maybe I am for Hillary?

I wonder if this is how

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Postby The Red Tornado » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:32:44

Macho Row wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
Macho Row wrote:Not counting California, which may end up basically a 50-50 split, MSNBC says Obama will lead the delegate count with roughly 590 to 540 for HRC.

Does that include super delegates?


Don't think so. They didn't specify either way, but I think they implied that those totals were the delegates won that will be pledged to the specific candidate.

Here's one for everyone. If California goes for HRC as expected, does Edwards thwart the momentum again by endorsing Obama sometime in the next few days?


what impact would he have at this point? If he had any it was this week.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:33:50

The Red Tornado wrote:Maybe you are all not racists?

There's one race overwhelmingly supporting one candidate...

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Postby VoxOrion » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:34:24

jerseyhoya wrote:
The Red Tornado wrote:Maybe you are all not racists?

There's one race overwhelmingly supporting one candidate...


Leave the Mormons out of this.

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Postby dajafi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:35:23

Both campaigns seem to think they can win a war of attrition. I think that if more big Democrats come out for Obama--and really only Gore and Edwards are left--it probably helps him, but maybe more with superdelegates than anything else.

Clinton's speech wasn't awful, I thought. She didn't attack Obama and was classy in mentioning the hurricanes, which I don't think Romney or Huckabee did.

Has McCain gone to bed?

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Postby meatball » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:38:13

dajafi wrote:Both campaigns seem to think they can win a war of attrition. I think that if more big Democrats come out for Obama--and really only Gore and Edwards are left--it probably helps him, but maybe more with superdelegates than anything else.

Clinton's speech wasn't awful, I thought. She didn't attack Obama and was classy in mentioning the hurricanes, which I don't think Romney or Huckabee did.

Has McCain gone to bed?


Obama is also pulling in huge amounts of money ($32 million to Hillary's $10 in January alone), so that'll also help him gain momentum. That, and having more time between primaries might favor him since he's a fantastic campaigner.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:38:43

McCain just called himself the frontrunner.

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Postby phuturephillies » Wed Feb 06, 2008 00:39:22

dajafi wrote:
phuturephillies wrote:I'm pro-Bloomberg. Wake me when he enters the race.


Bloomberg's too good for our country. He's basically the more ethnic/interesting Romney: great manager, real-world success (much more so than Romney as Bloomberg actually created value in the private sector rather than stripped companies like an Armani marauder). Other difference is that Bloomberg's into sex, drugs and the arts.

That I love the guy and detest The Mitt probably just shows that I'm as dumb as every other American voter.


amen.

we need a pragmatist who looks to dabble in the occasional psychedelic in the white house.

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