Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby my cousin mose » Mon May 18, 2015 17:23:12

don't really know jack about the flyers compared to you all but it seems pretty cool that they didn't just go balls deep for the biggest name they could think of
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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby Bill McNeal » Mon May 18, 2015 19:31:01

Yeah, I don't know anything about the guy so I can't really love or hate the hiring, but I do love the process. Hextall had something in mind and isn't going for a retread or just throwing money/wasting time at Babcock. Regardless of the outcome, I'm with the methodology.
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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby The Savior » Mon May 18, 2015 19:59:59

Love it
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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby SK790 » Mon May 18, 2015 22:07:16

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:BUT HOW MANY CHAMPIONSHIPS

Hackstol is actually hated by UND fans for this reason. The ones I still keep in contact with are happy he's gone.
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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby momadance » Tue May 19, 2015 00:25:59

SK790 wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:BUT HOW MANY CHAMPIONSHIPS

Hackstol is actually hated by UND fans for this reason. The ones I still keep in contact with are happy he's gone.


Ask them in two years about how much they miss him.

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby heyeaglefn » Tue May 19, 2015 08:26:34

He took over a really good program, it's not like he built it. They won 7 national championships before he took over and one a few years before his first season.
I am sure they'll be fine.

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Tue May 19, 2015 09:20:25

Hakstol turned down the Flyers twice before Hextall wore him down
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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby BigEd76 » Tue May 19, 2015 14:48:57

NHL.com:

Oshie: "With how many coaching changes there have been in the last couple of years, I was actually surprised he hadn't been hired yet. In my mind I figured it was his decision, and I know how much he loved North Dakota. It's not going to take long for the players to respect what he brings to the table and to want to play for him."

Toews credited his years playing for Hakstol in preparing him to play in the NHL and said Hakstol earned this opportunity. "I think you'll see him do well. Obviously it was a lot of fun to play for him in North Dakota. It was important years for myself and my career, so it's nice to see him have that success and get recognized and get the opportunity at the highest level."


Hakstol has done it successfully by utilizing a player-friendly system Oshie said allows players to take risks so they can showcase their skill without losing focus on defending. "I remember once him telling me I was smart enough to take a couple chances; he thought I was being a little too defensive. That was a different thing to hear for me for sure, but there is still a very good sound structure underneath that."

NCAA hockey analyst Dave Starman called Hakstol's system pace-based and said the focus is on controlling the center lane of the ice.

"His teams go at the net, shoot for rebounds, make plays, and really emphasize the defense being an active part of the offense. His use of weak side D to pinch and extend plays is a huge component to their offensive success, and defensive as well, as they don't retreat and regroup as much as other teams did."

Oshie and Starman might as well have been describing the four teams still playing in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. The Blackhawks, Ducks, Rangers and Lightning all play with pace, control the middle well, activate their defensemen, and let players showcase their skill. The Flyers want to be like those teams. Hextall said Hakstol can get them there because he's done it for 11 years in college. That he's never done it in the NHL is of little consequence. If Hextall is right, Hakstol will. "When Jon Cooper got hired by the Tampa Bay Lightning to go coach their farm team people were like, 'Oh, who is this Jon Cooper, why would they hire him?'" Button said. "Well wait a second, do you know anything about Jon Cooper? Do you know what he's done in the USHL? If you're not watching the USHL, you don't know how good of a coach he is. Just because you haven't heard of a guy doesn't mean he's a no-name."

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby Titlehungry » Tue May 19, 2015 15:23:48

Hopefully Toews and Oshie like him enough to want to play here someday
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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby CFP » Tue May 19, 2015 15:57:58

Trying to forget that Andrew MacDonald exists is hard

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue May 19, 2015 15:59:59

CFP wrote:Trying to forget that Andrew MacDonald exists is hard


He was really good in ny too. Idk what happened to him.

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby CFP » Tue May 19, 2015 16:01:02

ReadingPhilly wrote:
CFP wrote:Trying to forget that Andrew MacDonald exists is hard


He was really good in ny too. Idk what happened to him.


Is that sarcasm? I recall you disliking the trade.

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue May 19, 2015 16:12:09

CFP wrote:
ReadingPhilly wrote:
CFP wrote:Trying to forget that Andrew MacDonald exists is hard


He was really good in ny too. Idk what happened to him.


Is that sarcasm? I recall you disliking the trade.


Had to go back and look. I wasn't a fan of the price, that second would look nice this year. Was also afraid of the looming contract that unfortunately came to fruition.

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby z ipper » Tue May 19, 2015 16:26:07

i think he'll be better. he got in berube's doghouse and it was game over. i actually expect something from vinny too cause i'm assuming they won't play him 4th line wing.

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Re: Coachless: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby rolex » Tue May 19, 2015 16:34:31

It's really hard to predict how well most Flyers will play under Hakstol. Berube messed with so many players' games. It will probably half of the season before we see what the team really is. Some guys are going to be leaving. It looks like you have to be able to skate and move the puck in order to play for him. There goes a few defensemen and a couple of forwards.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby ReadingPhilly » Wed May 20, 2015 12:53:59

Signed defenseman yevgeny medvedev out of the khl. No idea if it's for the them or the phantoms though.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed May 20, 2015 12:54:32

They have so many defensemen already so hopefully Phantoms.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby ReadingPhilly » Wed May 20, 2015 12:55:53

Meltzer called him of the best dmen in the khl for the last few years. Who knows how that translates. Think we might see an exodus from the khl since the ruble fell and some guys aren't even getting paid.

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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Wed May 20, 2015 12:57:25

Hopefully Schenn and Grossmann are dealt at the draft. Good third pairing guys for a team with a real defense
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Re: Hex & Hacks: Flyers 2015 Offseason

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Wed May 20, 2015 12:58:40

This guy is 6'3 and 32 years old
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