I feel for the parents and certainly think things went too far in this case, as it doesn't seem to me the kids did anything out of the ordinary, or at least what should be considered ordinary.

It does make me a little queasy that they are specifically espousing a particular "free range" philosophy of parenting. History is rife with examples of doctors and parents diving into an ideologically driven view of parenting without giving enough thought to what he needs of an individual child are, whether that philosophy tends toward permissiveness or is more authoritarian. . I certainly don't know of any excesses, but it makes it a lot harder to discount the idea that they happened.

I think for the most part the "free range" philosophy is to treat kids pretty much the way kids have been treated at least as late as the 80s. I certainly remember going on my own to the local library when I was 8, it was about a half a mile from my house. Kids pretty much played outside unsupervised from a fairly young age as well all the time. Walked or biked to school, the whole bit.

Anyway, my experience dealing with today's young adults is that they really are seriously messed up because they haven't had any experience at being independent and responsible for themselves. They require a small army of student support services to navigate pretty basic human functions.

There's not much of an ideology to it, really, other than that a normal 10 year old can probably cross a street safely.

reads to me like a poorly-resolved information-processing issue.

These days everyone has a file on them; just ask Google. As usual, gummint's merely behind the curve. They don't want to 'discard' info on a low-incidence-potentially-high-profile situation that in all likelihood doesn't arise again, for a lot of reasons (but among them that storing that almost surely useless info is practically "free"), but don't have any really justifiable reasons for keeping the incident record, other than a nagging concern that they (or whomever's doing the job) will be pilloried for not having "done something" in the very remote chance that any bad thing actually does transpire.

In other words, government's supposed to "do" all sorts of things, most of them predicated on information signals of some kind, but is not allowed to use its let's-face-it paltry information signals effectively, for a lot of good and some not really all that good reasons.

I like the parents' reference to Kafka though. Kafka's cool. I like to think the situation would have appealed to him. Pondering it has the potential to reveal so much about the nature of knowledge, and memory, and guilt, and freedom, and consequences, all that convoluted stuff

Anyway, any article about research findings on dick size is more interesting than that

Pissed. Some ahole revved his engine and woke up a house full of dogs and cats, a sick wife and a daughter. Damn I'm old. This wouldn't have fazed me a few years back.

TenuredVulture wrote:I think for the most part the "free range" philosophy is to treat kids pretty much the way kids have been treated at least as late as the 80s. I certainly remember going on my own to the local library when I was 8, it was about a half a mile from my house. Kids pretty much played outside unsupervised from a fairly young age as well all the time. Walked or biked to school, the whole bit.

Anyway, my experience dealing with today's young adults is that they really are seriously messed up because they haven't had any experience at being independent and responsible for themselves. They require a small army of student support services to navigate pretty basic human functions.

There's not much of an ideology to it, really, other than that a normal 10 year old can probably cross a street safely.

My experience is similar.

While we're talking about the changing of children, TV, have you noticed a decline in the verbage/linguistics/reading ability in college kids?

I am quite often shocked by our high school kids' ability to read scripture/a devotion/etc. Many of these come from Augsburg Fortress, the publishing house of the ELCA. I am just wondering if it is a problem on the ELCA'S part, or a decline in education, or a combination of both.

A Safelite person is coming out to my work next week to replace my windshield (was an option through a Geico claim). Do I tip this guy and how much?

I don't think you even have to see the guy. That's how it was when my windshield got fixed.

Dude at work always takes off when there's a snow day at his kid's school.

She does an online charter.

This week:
M- 2-hr delay, left early to go to emergency room
T- early dismissal
W- closed
T- 11:30 dismissal/ likely no school
F- 3-hr inservice

This is not living.

Goddamn lazy teachers

pacino wrote:Dude at work always takes off when there's a snow day at his kid's school.

She does an online charter.

I guess the obvious question is why does an online charter have snow days???

And now the school year ends on a Friday. One more day off and we have to bring them back in for 3 hours on a Monday. Worst possible outcome.

Bucky wrote:

pacino wrote:Dude at work always takes off when there's a snow day at his kid's school.

She does an online charter.

I guess the obvious question is why does an online charter have snow days???

The only reasons I can think of is that the school district they are siphoning kids off from does as well, or maybe the teachers still have to drive?

But the kid is home alone either way, so why does HE take off?

JUburton wrote:A Safelite person is coming out to my work next week to replace my windshield (was an option through a Geico claim). Do I tip this guy and how much?

Not necessary.

Why was the spring training thread locked?

pacino wrote:

Bucky wrote:

pacino wrote:Dude at work always takes off when there's a snow day at his kid's school.

She does an online charter.

I guess the obvious question is why does an online charter have snow days???

The only reasons I can think of is that the school district they are siphoning kids off from does as well, or maybe the teachers still have to drive?

But the kid is home alone either way, so why does HE take off?

teachers probably cant make it to their office. the one online charter i know, all the teachers work in one building.

WheelsFellOff wrote:Why was the spring training thread locked?

pacino still mad about not getting into the HoF

yeah but why does the dude have to take off