They probably lose that game 8 out of 10 times but now it is the model to build the franchise around.

heyeaglefn wrote:Flyers new game plan. Illegally board a player with intent to injury to start the game.

especially if it's Crosby

Brantt wrote:

Napalm wrote:

Brantt wrote:Serious question.........how old are you guys? Did you get to see the NHL in the 80's and even 90's?

I know the game and fans who watch have changed, but man, this stuff used to happen almost every night. Heaven forbid something happens where a game is actually, you know, entertaining and watchable.

like the line in that article said, "do that thing theyve always done, 40 years after it last worked". it's a skill league now so it should be alarming that the most entertaining game for you was one in which the flyers had like 90 pim

I mean, the studio crew on NBC Sports all said it was the most entertaining game of the NHL season this year. The game was in the first segment on SportsCenter both last night and this morning, and the host on NHL Network said if all games were like last nights' the NHL could compete with the NFL (absurd, but the point is clear).

Playing with passion, energy and intensity hasn't worked for 40 years?

Hmm.....interesting take.

I'll go back to my Flyers board now.

I'd sit voracek for 17 straight minutes every game. you might be on to something.

rolex wrote:Last night two of the dirtiest players in the league were on display in Rinaldo and Downie and they both contributed nothing positive for their team. Rinaldo is a knuckle dragger and nothing more than that. He's a complete embarrassment to the organization. The best part of Rinaldo's efforts in the game is that with this suspension, Rinaldo will not be an option for Berube for a while.Hopefully a twenty gamer.
Getting a team fired up by a fight is one thing. Boarding someone from behind with an intent to injure is totally different. IMO, the Flyers got more of an emotional boost from Schenn wailing on Downie; Voracek blasting Scuderi and Bellmare taking out that AHL punk from Wilkes Barre that the Penguins put on the ice.

Voracek lit the place on fire for sure. That felt like the biggest turning point in the arena.

the flyers wont be able to muster this fire every night. no matter where theyre at every year, they always get up for games against the pens. last night is the exception to the rule.

Yeah because he rarely fights. You can't have the NHLs leading scorer fighting every game.

what i saw during wings intermission and tv timeouts and highlights was awesome though. rivalry night man. try getting pissed against columbus or something next time

Gimpy wrote:

rolex wrote:Last night two of the dirtiest players in the league were on display in Rinaldo and Downie and they both contributed nothing positive for their team. Rinaldo is a knuckle dragger and nothing more than that. He's a complete embarrassment to the organization. The best part of Rinaldo's efforts in the game is that with this suspension, Rinaldo will not be an option for Berube for a while.Hopefully a twenty gamer.
Getting a team fired up by a fight is one thing. Boarding someone from behind with an intent to injure is totally different. IMO, the Flyers got more of an emotional boost from Schenn wailing on Downie; Voracek blasting Scuderi and Bellmare taking out that AHL punk from Wilkes Barre that the Penguins put on the ice.

Voracek lit the place on fire for sure. That felt like the biggest turning point in the arena.

total bitch hit going for the knees.

heyeaglefn wrote:They probably lose that game 8 out of 10 times but now it is the model to build the franchise around.

If that's what you get out of my posts on last night's game, there's really no reason to move forward with the conversation.

Not sure what else to say.

Brantt wrote:Playing with passion, energy and intensity hasn't worked for 40 years?

I agree with your generally premise here, Brantt. The problem is that you always have to add "stupidity" to the list when talking about Rinaldo. Once you get past the "that was a really entertaining game" bit you realize that what Rinaldo did was incredibly stupid - he injured a guy with a blatant check from behind; he put one of the NHL's top PP teams on a five-minute PP in a game the Flyers were leading; he potentially changed the mindset of the Penguins so that their goal for the rest of the game was revenge against a Giroux or a Vorachek (see Rob Scudari seemingly going after Jake's knees). Do you think the Flyers were pumped over the Rinaldo hit or just thinking "this fucking idiot has us shorthanded (again) for the next five minutes"?

While I like the passion, energy and intensity that Rinaldo brings to an often listless team, I am always left with the feeling that he has no clue where the line is. And with him and his history, the line is finer than most.

traderdave wrote:

Brantt wrote:Playing with passion, energy and intensity hasn't worked for 40 years?

I agree with your generally premise here, Brantt. The problem is that you always have to add "stupidity" to the list when talking about Rinaldo. Once you get past the "that was a really entertaining game" bit you realize that what Rinaldo did was incredibly stupid - he injured a guy with a blatant check from behind; he put one of the NHL's top PP teams on a five-minute PP in a game the Flyers were leading; he potentially changed the mindset of the Penguins so that their goal for the rest of the game was revenge against a Giroux or a Vorachek (see Rob Scudari seemingly going after Jake's knees). Do you think the Flyers were pumped over the Rinaldo hit or just thinking "this #$!&@ idiot has us shorthanded (again) for the next five minutes"?

While I like the passion, energy and intensity that Rinaldo brings to an often listless team, I am always left with the feeling that he has no clue where the line is. And with him and his history, the line is finer than most.

All I said was the hit changed the game (which it clearly did). I'm not sure how some have taken that to mean the Flyers should go around intentionally trying to injure people as a strategy. From that point forward, the Flyers took their game to another level that we have not seen all year starting with the penalty kill. You are right, most nights they would get burned by a play like that, but last night was not one of them. At the very least it indirectly caused them to play at an emotional level they haven't come close to playing at all year. That clearly doesn't mean I condone a dirty hit, but in a violent sport that is going to happen from time to time and in this case it did change the game.

To me, it really has nothing to do with Rinaldo. He's irrelevant. It has more to do with this team showing last night they are capable of playing with emotion and passion and sticking up for one another. We hadn't seen that all year.

Giroux is such a good looking guy. For the life of me, I don't know why he refuses to wear his tooth when he's out in public. It's offputting.

They always do that against Pittsburgh, did you miss the earlier game they played against them?

"I've never dropped my gloves before but this was fun. The crowd loved it. I think we should come back after the all-star break and play more of this type of games."

-The Frenchman

SEE THE FRENCH ARE SAYING IT YOU PUSSIES

Gooning. The new market inefficiency. Time is a flat circle. I'll be damned.

There's a large oasis between gooning and the emotionless play of the flyers this season.

ReadingPhilly wrote:There's a large oasis between gooning and the emotionless play of the flyers this season.

Exactly.

That is true, but the question is why are they so different this year?

Maybe it's Berube but that's the easy answer.

You'd think they'd play harder to impress Hextall.

Losing Kimmo hurt because the rest of the defense blows outside of Streit.