swishnicholson wrote:

smitty wrote:There's not a #50 pick as good as Lohse even. Seth Smith and Owings are the only two who even had a big league career since 2000.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/draft/dr ... sorted_by=

It's kinda fun to look up draft picks. Far more misses than hits. And that's in the first round. It's not easy getting average or better players in a draft. Good thing teams have a lot of picks. I really like what the Phillies have done over that last few drafts. At least the minor league teams are doing quite well. Especially after last year.

I'm not sure I follow you, smitty. Every year there are draft picks at #50 and beyond who do well in the majors. Just grabbing 2001 as a for instance brings up Dan Haren, C.J. Wilson, Kevin Youkilis, old friend Ryan Howard and others. And, as has been pointed out, value can be realized by prospects at this level who turn out to be crappy as long as you manage to trade them off before everyone realizes this. Now, identifying the successful players and drafting them is the trick, certainly and that can be quite a crapshoot, but some seem to do it better than others. But I don't think we can or should entirely dismiss the value of the competitive balance picks. But maybe that's not what you're saying.

Polar Bear Phan wrote:
If you don't suck at your selection, a pick around 50th overall is probably going to end up being a top 100 prospect in a year or three.

Bucky wrote:For everything to work out with prospects, several things need to go right.
Under normal circumstances, this rarely happens.
Nowadays, usually only top picks hit it big.
Nevertheless, sometimes lower picks pan out.
You can't be to certain with prospects.

Getting all worked up about it is pointless.
A good number of folks spend years trying to study this.
Myself, I really could care less.
Eh, I think I'l grab another Mike's.

Polar Bear Phan wrote:To expand on this a bit more, of the 9 guys occupying spots 34-42 in the 2012 Draft, Kevin Plawecki (Pick 35), Stephen Piscotty (36), Joey Gallo (39), and Lance McCullers (41) have each made multiple Top 100 lists and debuted in MLB. Of course, Joey Gallo was viewed as one of the elite prospects in baseball coming into this season.

Shane Watson (Pick 40) is not viewed with regard.

Note: While there were no competitive balance picks in 2012, this season was the first to feature the current draft slotting system. So, pre-2012 might not be strictly comparable...

Phred wrote:

Squire wrote:The Athletics just traded LHP Scott Kazmir somewhere.

First rumor is to the Houston Astros.

He ain't no Cole Hamels.

BigTexJosh
#Marlins top prospect @Tyler_Kolek wins a pre-game cow milking contest and chugs the milk.

Bucky wrote:

Bucky wrote:For everything to work out with prospects, several things need to go right.
Under normal circumstances, this rarely happens.
Nowadays, usually only top picks hit it big.
Nevertheless, sometimes lower picks pan out.
You can't be to certain with prospects.

Getting all worked up about it is pointless.
A good number of folks spend years trying to study this.
Myself, I really could care less.
Eh, I think I'l grab another Mike's.

sure wish Nic Cage posted here

Bucky wrote:

Bucky wrote:

Bucky wrote:For everything to work out with prospects, several things need to go right.
Under normal circumstances, this rarely happens.
Nowadays, usually only top picks hit it big.
Nevertheless, sometimes lower picks pan out.
You can't be to certain with prospects.

Getting all worked up about it is pointless.
A good number of folks spend years trying to study this.
Myself, I really could care less.
Eh, I think I'l grab another Mike's.

sure wish Nic Cage posted here

Bucky wrote:I often contend that framing by catchers is extremely overrated, because as an ump I watched the ball and the plate and didn't give a @#$% where it was caught. this guy is trying to prove me wrong.

I think it was a strike. It was either a strike, a triple play or a touchdown.

Bucky wrote:

Bucky wrote:

Bucky wrote:

Bucky wrote:For everything to work out with prospects, several things need to go right.
Under normal circumstances, this rarely happens.
Nowadays, usually only top picks hit it big.
Nevertheless, sometimes lower picks pan out.
You can't be to certain with prospects.

Getting all worked up about it is pointless.
A good number of folks spend years trying to study this.
Myself, I really could care less.
Eh, I think I'l grab another Mike's.

sure wish Nic Cage posted here

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