Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Grotewold » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:32:26

Bill McNeal wrote:9.5 out of the WC and an elimination number of 21.
Owners of the longest current winning streak in the majors at 4
And 7-3 in their last 10, also currently the best in the majors (tied with a few others)


I don't know what you want us to do about it

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:05:50

It's all lining up for Franco to come up and lead us to the promised land
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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:08:47

Numbers regressing to the back of baseball card mean
“I don’t coach losers, I only coach winners.” Mike Krzyzewski

Tom Brady bereft on the turf, it has literally been ripped from his grasp

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Grotewold » Thu Aug 28, 2014 15:37:28

Montgomery on medical leave, with Gillick assuming duties

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Grotewold » Fri Aug 29, 2014 09:28:18

Matt Welp with a nice article on MAG

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby smitty » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:20:17

Bill McNeal wrote:It's all lining up for Franco to come up and lead us to the promised land


He's tanned, rested and ready.
Teams lie, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for bad. They do it to get an advantage while they look at the trade market or just because they can

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:22:47

Bill McNeal wrote:It's all lining up for Franco to come up and lead us to the promised land

if we went on a 25 game run, he'd be a legend

a man can dream
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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Bill McNeal » Fri Aug 29, 2014 19:27:33

Gelb has an article up on Philly.com now that says the phillies want to trade Howard to an AL team this offseason and then goes on to point out all of the holes in Howard's game. Howard is zeroing in on being historically inept at this point.

The front office's hope, according to sources familiar with the situation, is that an American League team will take a chance on Howard if he reaches plateaus such as 25 home runs and 100 RBIs. (He is on pace for 23 homers with 99 RBIs.) Howard, who turns 35 in November, is owed $60 million after this season. While the team held internal discussions about releasing Howard, according to CSNPhilly.com, that is viewed as a last resort. Ownership is not keen on the stigma of such a move.
Both general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. and Sandberg have denied that the front office exerted pressure to keep Howard in the lineup. But team executives believe a benched Howard cripples their chances of flipping him this winter.

Howard, at the time of his three-game benching, was batting .224 with a .682 OPS. He had a .236 average and .732 OPS in 125 plate appearances since then, before Friday. His season slugging percentage has improved from .377 to .382, still an 83-point drop from last season. That .382 mark ranked 109th out of 151 qualified hitters and 18th out of 20 first basemen.



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A player who bats cleanup as frequently as Howard is bound to accumulate RBIs. Howard is on pace for 608 plate appearances from the No. 4 spot. There were 316 batters from 1914 to 2013 with at least 600 plate appearances in one season as a cleanup hitter, and 273 of them (86.4 percent) collected 90 or more RBIs.

Just two of those 316 players had a lower OPS as a cleanup hitter than Howard's current .696.


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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Squire » Fri Aug 29, 2014 19:47:14

It's cute that the Phillies think there is a single Other team out there that still uses the 1970's metrics that they use to evaluate players. Or maybe tragic.

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Woody » Fri Aug 29, 2014 21:08:08

It's all tragic
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby blueclaw » Fri Aug 29, 2014 21:23:56

The royals seem pretty dumb. They might value RBIs
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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby ReadingPhilly » Fri Aug 29, 2014 21:51:44

Realken says angels had interest in Burnett but talks stalled because Burnett would not waive his option.

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Bucky » Fri Aug 29, 2014 21:53:09

Squire wrote:It's cute that the Phillies think there is a single Other team out there that still uses the 1970's metrics that they use to evaluate players. Or maybe tragic.



c'mon, it's easy. just find out who ed wade is working for nowad.....oops. nevermind.

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Aug 30, 2014 05:07:15

Ownership isn't keen on the stigma of being viewed as intelligent.
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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Monkeyboy » Sat Aug 30, 2014 13:50:29

well, if they are willing to pay 57 million of the remaining 60 he's owed, maybe someone would take him as a guy off the bench.

It's possible.

Maybe.

I'd like to see him go if for no other reason than I don't want the fans to completely turn on him. It's not his fault they were willing to give him all that money and I really doubt he thought, "I'm going to suck really bad, so I hope I can sign a huge contract before it happens." He also has a reputation as a good teammate and he's not a lazy ass that let himself go.
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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Bill McNeal » Sat Aug 30, 2014 15:10:53

Monkeyboy wrote:well, if they are willing to pay 57 million of the remaining 60 he's owed, maybe someone would take him as a guy off the bench.

It's possible.

Maybe.

I'd like to see him go if for no other reason than I don't want the fans to completely turn on him. It's not his fault they were willing to give him all that money and I really doubt he thought, "I'm going to suck really bad, so I hope I can sign a huge contract before it happens." He also has a reputation as a good teammate and he's not a lazy ass that let himself go.

Yeah, I agree with this. He showed up down right skinny this year, seemed like he worked his ass off to prepare and be ready and healthy, he's just not good at baseball anymore. It's not on him, it's on rube
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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sat Aug 30, 2014 15:36:16

him sucking at baseball is on him though.

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby Bucky » Sat Aug 30, 2014 15:59:43

ReadingPhilly wrote:him sucking at baseball is on him though.


well, i guess in the most literal sense, yes. but it's not like he could have done anything differently to change the outcome. That's the essence of the 'it's not on him' that we all talk about.

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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby PhillieMooDo » Sat Aug 30, 2014 16:10:50

ReadingPhilly wrote:him sucking at baseball is on him though.

Getting older, sustaining injuries...

Totally his fault.
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Re: Random Phillies thoughts(of impending winter sports)

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sat Aug 30, 2014 16:16:55

Never was any good at defense at the easiest position on the diamond. Biggest guess hitter you'll see which you'd think would improve from video work. Good for him not getting fat, but he doesn't strike me as someone who puts in a lot of work.

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